Where is Discovery's CMO?

[ItIsGreen]

It's on screen and has not yet been contradicted on screen, it's canon. If Picard saying Starfleet isn't military is enough for people to declare Starfleet non-military, then a computer graphic saying Stamets is Discovery's chief engineer is engineer is enough to declare he is the chief engineer.

Seems a bit pedantic to declare something canon when one of the producers of the show has explicitly stated it was a mistake. It's early days, let's just give them this one.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Medical ethics of the future will be different. Doctors are more and more becoming somebody who provides a service, and less and less somebody with authority or with some kind of sacred trust.

Kor

Sometimes a man will tell his bartender things he won't tell his doctor. And we have canon-lock. #HowDiscoveryFitsIntoPrime

 

[GeekUSACarl]

It's on screen and has not yet been contradicted on screen, it's canon. If Picard saying Starfleet isn't military is enough for people to declare Starfleet non-military, then a computer graphic saying Stamets is Discovery's chief engineer is engineer is enough to declare he is the chief engineer.

In what way is Picard not TNG's lead, or Sisko not DS9's or Janeway not Voyager's? The shows may have an ensemble cast but the captains were very much the centre of their shows. TNG might have started with the intent of Picard and Riker being "co-leads" but Patrick Stewart eventually established dominance and became the sole leading man of the show. Sisko is very much the main character of DS9 and to suggest otherwise shows a very serious misunderstanding of the show and or the character. The series is built around him, he's the commander of the station, religious icon to the Bajorans and later war hero and key strategist responsible for defeating the Dominion. Voyager, I grant you, probably got closer to TNG's "co-lead" thing between Janeway and Seven of Nine, with the Doctor arguably coming close to the second tier, but I do not see sufficient evidence to declare Janeway isn't the lead.

Out of curiosity who do you feel are the leads of these shows if not their captains?

not every show has a singular lead. and ds9 voy, not one singular lead. i dont care how its billed the episodes just never bore that out. the episodes dont largely focus on any one central character. one great thing about these trek shows is they truly knew how to use an ensemble cast. no DS9 isnt really truly about sisko and voyager isnt about janeway. intent or not.

also picard saying starfleet isnt a millitary organization isnt the same as aproducer saying a graphic was a production mistake.

 

[Fandango831]

Interstellar Tooth, Jaw, & Gum decay is the leading cause of Starfleet Officer deaths in recent years. This press release by the Starfleet Surgeon General states:

Stardate 1352.47
Medical Order #3257
All Starfleet Personnel are ordered to not undergo surgeries under the profile (Andorian Tonsillectomies) due to complications listed; Blindness, Hearing loss, Respiratory issues, Lack of proper Circulation, Death, Etc.

Any Personnel that have undergone surgeries are immediately ordered to the nearest Starbase Medical Facility to recieve the new Starfleet approved regrowth treatment to renew removed Nodes and treat any medically induced complications due to surgeries profiled (Andorian Tonsillectomies).

From the Office of Starfleet Medical HQ SF, Earth
Surgeon General, ADM. Janis McArthur

In all seriousness there really isn't a reason to write them in since Culber is our only real reason to be in sickbay story wise. Hope you enjoyed that informative letter by Starfleet Medical

 

[nutshell]

How often do you go to the hospital and see the chief of staff?

 

[The Wormhole]

one great thing about these trek shows is they truly knew how to use an ensemble cast.

Oh my cock, you did not just say that. DS9 knew how to use an ensemble cast. TNG did alright but struggled at incorporating the entire cast at times, though this doesn't really become apparent in the movie. But even in the series, they had trouble coming up with stuff for Dr. Crusher and Counselor Troi that was within their job descriptions, so suddenly medical officers can take command of the bridge, and when you get down to it, how much did we really learn about Geordi as a person? The problems with juggling an ensemble really become apparent in the movies.

But as for Voyager? Harry Kim. That's all I'm saying. Harry. Fucking. Kim.

How often do you go to the hospital and see the chief of staff?

That analogy doesn't work all that well, since a starship's medical department isn't at all comparable to a hospital.

Regardless, even if you want to go there, we have seen medical situations in this show serious enough to warrant the Captain being summoned to sickbay. If it's serious enough to bring the Captain involved, it's serious enough to get the CMO involved. To use your hospital analogy, if a hospital had a medical situation serious enough to warrant the presence of they city's mayor or state's governor, or even the damn President, than it's serious enough to get the hospital's chief of staff involved, and indeed his/her absence in the presence of such top brass would stand out.

 

[indranee]

Here he is:

 

[Nerys Myk]

He's still wrestling with that Andorian tonsil. It's a major medical procedure.

 

[indranee]

I feel like I have heard Dr. M'benga mentioned a few times. I know that he eventually serves on Enterprise in ToS

really?! What scene and episode? I've missed this!!

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Discovery's CMO needs to be a running gag, the only time we hear about them is when Culber needs to assist with some bizarre surgical procedure like a Klingon Bris or something.

 

[Timo]

The show sort of has the perfect excuse for the "heroes do everything" sctick: Lorca has a ship full of fools, that is, silver-stripes with their eggheads deep in the clouds, with only a core team of practical doers he can trust with going to war.

Say, Picard or even Kirk would have a security force where the second-in-command would become the Chief if the boss goes down. But Lorca has no security force in his small crew, just the Chief (and perhaps a few goons repurposed from High Dubiosity Physics Reactants Loading duty), and has to outsource to recovering vets once the Chief gets herself slain.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[cultcross]

It's on screen and has not yet been contradicted on screen, it's canon. If Picard saying Starfleet isn't military is enough for people to declare Starfleet non-military, then a computer graphic saying Stamets is Discovery's chief engineer is engineer is enough to declare he is the chief engineer.

I know this is your favourite topic of all time, but the analogy doesn't really hold. No-one in the production team have said that Picard's comments (or nuScotty's, etc) were a production error and therefore should be ignored. Several people have said that a briefly displayed graphic was wrong. Not the same thing.

Stamets being chief engineer makes no sense - he's a fungus scientist. He's not going to have a clue about most systems in a starship.

 

[Timo]

...Do we have a screencap of the display in question?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[SPCTRE]

I can't wait for all the novel tie-ins that explain, in excruciating detail, the exact whereabouts of STD's CMO at any given time

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The much bigger issue is why, if there are other doctors available, he is assigned to treat his partner. There's a big ethical issue there.

Yep. That's a big problem.

Stamets is also the indispensable cog in the Federation's most important weapon. I'm surprised that the CMO isn't more hands on, since I presume that the medical treatment of everyone aboard is more the CMO's responsibility than anyone else's.

 

[Timo]

But again that's a plot point: Lorca doesn't want proper medical monitoring of Stamets because he doesn't want anybody to know how badly off the spore navigator is.

I'm all for the "future medical ethics are different" bit. Fuck objective and cold. You get more caring when you care.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[dahj]

since I presume that the medical treatment of everyone aboard is more the CMO's responsibility than anyone else's.

We presume that because up to now we've only seen the CMOs who did absolutely everything and were specialist in everything, from treating boo-boos, doing advanced medical research and going on away missions.

It actually makes more sense that the CMO's function would be to delegate all those task to their staff...

 

[CorporalCaptain]

We presume that because up to now we've only seen the CMOs who did absolutely everything and were specialist in everything, from treating boo-boos, doing advanced medical research and going on away missions.

No, "we" don't.

It actually makes more sense that the CMO's function would be to delegate all those task to their staff...

I don't recall expressing surprise that the CMO wasn't treating Stamets himself.

 

[dahj]

I don't recall expressing surprise that the CMO wasn't treating Stamets himself.

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Stamets is also the indispensable cog in the Federation's most important weapon. I'm surprised that the CMO isn't more hands on

 

[CorporalCaptain]

There're things between being MIA and completely taking over, like being present, to assist, to supervise, to observe, and to consult, like nominally getting reports, etc. Given the unique and groundbreaking nature of Stamets's condition, why wouldn't more than one physician be present as he is treated, including the CMO? The CMO must be really disinterested in space medicine (or else really interested in those Andorian tonsils).