The next time we see Star Trek on TV, it will be a hard reboot of the franchise.
It'll be about Kirk, Spock and McCoy on an interstellar spaceship called the Enterprise. Beyond that, there will be little that is recognizable.
Where does the Star Trek go from here?
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The next time we see Star Trek on TV, it will be a hard reboot of the franchise.
It'll be about Kirk, Spock and McCoy on an interstellar spaceship called the Enterprise. Beyond that, there will be little that is recognizable.
As in 1973-74 Star Trek we got an animated tv series continuing the original 1966-69 Star Trek.
I would settle for a prime universe animated tv series:
Star Trek Excelsior with Captain Sulu(post ST VI UC)
Star Trek 1701-B with Captain Harriman(post ST Generations launch sequence)
Star Trek 1701-C with Captain Garrett(long before the events of Yesterday's Enterprise )
or
Star Trek Titan with Captain Riker(post Nemesis) . . . ...... If Star Wars can have a Clone Wars animated series, then we can have a new Star Trek animated series too.
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ENT was open-ended. Didn't work so well.
Broadcast TV audiences are used to very goal-directed stories: cop shows, doctor shows and lawyer shows all have stringent limitations on the types of stories that can be told and that's probably why they are popular. Ditto for reality TV - competitions are highly directed. It's like going to McDonald's and knowing how the burger will taste. People don't want surprises from broadcast TV.
On cable, there's more tolerance for open-ended stories but even then, it's easier to find examples of shows where the premise places strict limitations on the story (Breaking Bad, Dexter, The Walking Dead) than otherwise (Mad Men).
One of the rare examples of a premise with open-ended potential will illustrate the danger of this approach: Heroes. That story could have gone anywhere. But then the trick is, of all the infinite storylines you could spin, pick one of the limited number that are worth the audience's time. How do you do that? The Heroes writers apparently didn't know how, and faced with unlimited choice, they started chasing their tails. The open-ended premise is very dangerous and requires far more writing skill than usual.
Saquist
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That is why it must be an animated tv series, you do not need the original actors to do an animated tv series. Star Wars Clone Wars animated series it an excellent example.
The reason Clone Wars has to be animated is because we need to see more of the movie characters so that competent writers will have the chance to rewrite them, and wipe out the putrid memory of the PT. (Okay, it's actually to sell toys to kids but allow me my delusions. 
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But why is Riker so important of a character that we need an animated series just to get him back? Unlike Anakin, he was never a character of fascinating and unique potential, which went aggravatingly unrealized, leaving fans frothing at the mouth in frustration and existential despair. Riker is just another Starfleet guy, and I think TNG fulfilled what potential he had just fine. Why not build a story around some other Starfleet guy or gal (how about an alien main character this time?) and do the show live-action?
)But why is Riker so important of a character that we need an animated series just to get him back? Unlike Anakin, he was never a character of fascinating and unique potential, which went aggravatingly unrealized, leaving fans frothing at the mouth in frustration and existential despair. Riker is just another Starfleet guy, and I think TNG fulfilled what potential he had just fine. Why not build a story around some other Starfleet guy or gal (how about an alien main character this time?) and do the show live-action?
The reason Clone Wars has to be animated is because we need to see more of the movie characters so that competent writers will have the chance to rewrite them, and wipe out the putrid memory of the PT. (Okay, it's actually to sell toys to kids but allow me my delusions.
But why is Riker so important of a character that we need an animated series just to get him back? Unlike Anakin, he was never a character of fascinating and unique potential, which went aggravatingly unrealized, leaving fans frothing at the mouth in frustration and existential despair. Riker is just another Starfleet guy, and I think TNG fulfilled what potential he had just fine. Why not build a story around some other Starfleet guy or gal (how about an alien main character this time?) and do the show live-action?
I agree with you about SW Clone Wars animated series is to make us forget about Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones...as if the Star Wars filmed history is Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith and the original SW trilogy.
As far as Riker-less, I see your point...cross off Star Trek Titan, pick one of the others.
I just say prime universe animated tv series now with the alternate universe timeline live-action JJAbrams Star Trek movies are being made.
If a animated Trek series is made, who is it focused at? Adult fans? Children like Clone Wars on Cartoon Network? I'm surprised Paramount hasn't already put out a Nu-Trek cartoon series to tie in with the Trek09 movie.
On a side note, I wonder if Paramount would allow a knockoff Trek like show done the way SyFy does it's Saturday night B-movies? Instead of Star Trek it could be called Space Travels and they could hire Trek actors to play sound alike characters or just get Paramount/CBS to allow SyFy to do Prime Trek stories. Look at what James Crawley has accomplished on a shoe string budget, I'm sure the SyFy movies cost alittle more than what Mr. Crawley has spent on two hours of his Trek stories. If anything it might be an improvement over most of those Saturday night movies and this could be another direction Trek could go in.
On a side note, I wonder if Paramount would allow a knockoff Trek like show done the way SyFy does it's Saturday night B-movies? Instead of Star Trek it could be called Space Travels and they could hire Trek actors to play sound alike characters or just get Paramount/CBS to allow SyFy to do Prime Trek stories. Look at what James Crawley has accomplished on a shoe string budget, I'm sure the SyFy movies cost alittle more than what Mr. Crawley has spent on two hours of his Trek stories. If anything it might be an improvement over most of those Saturday night movies and this could be another direction Trek could go in.
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Please give me one good reason why i should ever watch this show that lacks all imagination and all forms of reality. In addition the space-nebula dictates that the star ship enterise isnt even a real ship!!! In conclusion I'm new hi!! Love you too
Saquist
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Please give me one good reason why i should ever watch this show that lacks all imagination and all forms of reality. In addition the space-nebula dictates that the star ship enterise isnt even a real ship!!! In conclusion I'm new hi!! Love you too
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That could work....
The reason Clone Wars has to be animated is because we need to see more of the movie characters so that competent writers will have the chance to rewrite them, and wipe out the putrid memory of the PT. (Okay, it's actually to sell toys to kids but allow me my delusions.
But why is Riker so important of a character that we need an animated series just to get him back? Unlike Anakin, he was never a character of fascinating and unique potential, which went aggravatingly unrealized, leaving fans frothing at the mouth in frustration and existential despair. Riker is just another Starfleet guy, and I think TNG fulfilled what potential he had just fine. Why not build a story around some other Starfleet guy or gal (how about an alien main character this time?) and do the show live-action?
The reason Clone Wars is animated is it allows the episodes to be produced at a fraction of the cost of live action episodes. Animated Trek could be done for the same reason. But the issue is there is currently no market for a non-comedy animated series targeted at adults. A bold studio could decide to break that mold, but that's not CBS.
If it didn't infringe copyright then Paramount would have no way to stop it. If it did, Paramount would stop it cold. Corporations have to do that, in order to hang onto the rights to their own intellectual property, and Star Trek is far too valuable to mess around with.
What's the value of them sounding like Star Trek actors? Would we even be able to tell? Zachary Quinto has a pretty distinctive voice but none of the rest of them do.
Please give me one good reason why i should ever watch this show that lacks all imagination and all forms of reality. In addition the space-nebula dictates that the star ship enterise isnt even a real ship!!! In conclusion I'm new hi!! Love you too
Welcome aboard.
That could work....
The only hope for the prime universe to be continued is in a CG animated tv series.
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Saquist
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Tell me about it...
Star Trek: Section 31.
Do away with the cast of seven do it X-Files style or line Bones. Trek needs a girl guy combination.
And that's something you could do to cover each hundred year span of Trek going forward. I guess you could call it Century Themes. There are so many to do. I'd really like to see the Augment Theme to return in bigger and bolder ways that will really pop on the screen. The Borg Theme could have been done for an entire series and really test or even destroy the federation.
The thing is now we really have some awesome ways to make this stuff happen onscreen in really big and creative and wild ways.
Tell me about it...
Star Trek: Section 31.
Do away with the cast of seven do it X-Files style or line Bones. Trek needs a girl guy combination.
And that's something you could do to cover each hundred year span of Trek going forward. I guess you could call it Century Themes. There are so many to do. I'd really like to see the Augment Theme to return in bigger and bolder ways that will really pop on the screen. The Borg Theme could have been done for an entire series and really test or even destroy the federation.
The thing is now we really have some awesome ways to make this stuff happen onscreen in really big and creative and wild ways.
It is a brilliant idea... Star Trek:Section 31.
If you want television worth watching, it needs newer, bigger, faster, stronger Characterization and Story-Telling. Eye-Candy goes at the bottom of the list.
The ships go from Point A to Point B. Make them faster, and the writers have to counter by giving them further away places to go. Make the weapons more powerful, and the writers have to counter by giving the enemies more powerful weapons, too.
Since in the end, you arrive at the same dramatic balance, what's the point of making the ships faster or the weapons more powerful?
Since in the end, you arrive at the same dramatic balance, what's the point of making the ships faster or the weapons more powerful?
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