Where did all the future tech come from?
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I meant the actual design.
I'm enjoying the show as it is thus far and I totally don't expect them to cater to me specifically in any way. I just like it when they do or if they leave a gap open for my mind to fill in the blanks at least.
Right now (as far as my brain canon is concerned) this more or less exists in the Kelvin Timeline. Clearly the writers are placing it where they think it belongs and by no means am I saying everyone should think what I think.
That being said I'm in that core base of Trekkies and I love the Kelvin Timeline easpecially that one movie nobody else seems to like very much.......
Most of their future tech ideas reminds me of the tech they used in the continuum series. Like the handheld holographic display device that stay in-sync with the hand movements of the user holding the device. It's nothing new, I'm not impressed.
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That is the issue, this is tech we expect in 2017. Yet it was nothing they thought of in 1966, so some folks are upset they are using tech we expect them to have and not limiting to what the folks in 1966 thought.
The Spore Drive is a neat idea. The concept is pretty much a copy cat of Voyager episode "Threshold". As Janeway said:
TORRES: Then it's just a matter of navigation. If we could figure out how to come out of transwarp at a specific point, this could get us home.
JANEWAY: It could do more than that. It could change the very nature of our existence. Think of it. There would be nothing beyond our reach.
But that technology has no business being in the hands of the federation in the 23rd century. The idea still has potential though. Maybe if they can teleport to another galaxy then lose the coordinates of federation space (technology lost to preserve continuity) then the series can focus on exploring a new galaxy every week.
TORRES: Then it's just a matter of navigation. If we could figure out how to come out of transwarp at a specific point, this could get us home.
JANEWAY: It could do more than that. It could change the very nature of our existence. Think of it. There would be nothing beyond our reach.
But that technology has no business being in the hands of the federation in the 23rd century. The idea still has potential though. Maybe if they can teleport to another galaxy then lose the coordinates of federation space (technology lost to preserve continuity) then the series can focus on exploring a new galaxy every week.
Why is that? What prevents 23rd Century scientists from experimenting the concept?
I love the Kelvin timeline, but DSC doesn't fit there. In Into Darkness the Klingons were an unknown that had "conquered and occupied two planets that we know of, and fired on our ships half a dozen times." according to Admiral Marcus. In Discovery, they're in open war with the Klingons just a few years before.I'm enjoying the show as it is thus far and I totally don't expect them to cater to me specifically in any way. I just like it when they do or if they leave a gap open for my mind to fill in the blanks at least.
Right now (as far as my brain canon is concerned) this more or less exists in the Kelvin Timeline. Clearly the writers are placing it where they think it belongs and by no means am I saying everyone should think what I think.
That being said I'm in that core base of Trekkies and I love the Kelvin Timeline easpecially that one movie nobody else seems to like very much.......
And in Discovery they can basically transwarp beam entire starships wherever they want.
It's it's own thing.
This whole "we should expect this sort of tech because 2017" thing is rather fundamentally silly. Surely the 23rd century will not be anything like we in 2017 expect it to be? And our expectations as of 2017 are no better or more relevant than our expectations in 1966, or 1980, or 2063.
Trek becomes the less relevant as an enjoyable interpretation of future, the more it tries to be today. We saw plenty of this in ST:TMP already, where the tech was dumbed down to 1970s NASA levels in places. It just doesn't pay to try and be "current" because you then just end up "dated" in no time flat.
Timo Saloniemi
Trek becomes the less relevant as an enjoyable interpretation of future, the more it tries to be today. We saw plenty of this in ST:TMP already, where the tech was dumbed down to 1970s NASA levels in places. It just doesn't pay to try and be "current" because you then just end up "dated" in no time flat.
Timo Saloniemi
I wouldn't be too alarmed by the techno feats the Discovery and her crew are demonstrating - it's clear much of the technology is experimental and to use it involves great risk, yet necessary due to the mission of the ship to turn the tides against the Klingons who were indeed winning the war.
It is unfair to compare that to the regular technology we see in TOS/TNG, as this is bread and butter tools of trade, economically mass produced systems and components to support their entire fleet with 5+ years lifespan out in deep space.
Don't forget we also seen impressive feats of speed, time travel and utter destruction in TOS/TNG also, funny enough you only see these rabbits-out-of-the-hat jobs when the situation calls for it.
It is unfair to compare that to the regular technology we see in TOS/TNG, as this is bread and butter tools of trade, economically mass produced systems and components to support their entire fleet with 5+ years lifespan out in deep space.
Don't forget we also seen impressive feats of speed, time travel and utter destruction in TOS/TNG also, funny enough you only see these rabbits-out-of-the-hat jobs when the situation calls for it.
Because this form of technology would revolutionize transportation in star trek and yet it's never been mentioned. Why didn't they mention it on Voyager? Why don't the Borg know about it? If they intend on having this be forgotten quickly it's okay. Kind of like how when George made his time machine in the 17th century in the Time Machine.
You can bet that the spore drive will either not work in a sustainable way or it will be revealed to be a disastrous method of FTL travel.
This is why your USS Voyager-God and Borg-God you know and love won't use it or ever come across the knowledge to even try it.
That's true. The years don't match up. STiD takes place only two years after "The Vulcan Hello".
The updated look of DSC doesn't bother me at all. I would not have been offended if they had made it look like the TOS stuff myself, but especially for a show that is depending on people paying for it they cannot depend upon solely purists or nostalgia viewers to fund them. To get some customers from folks who never watched TOS, they have to make the "high tech" look believably high tech from our current standards.
I can remember when the TOS communicators were so high tech that they were fiction. When TOS was originally airing, there were not any portable phones like that. If you show that to a millennial today who was unfamiliar with the show, they would think that it was old because flip phones are now largely outdated.
I can remember when the TOS communicators were so high tech that they were fiction. When TOS was originally airing, there were not any portable phones like that. If you show that to a millennial today who was unfamiliar with the show, they would think that it was old because flip phones are now largely outdated.
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