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Where did all the future tech come from?

I've said it before that they could have easily gone with 'retro-futuristic' aesthetics for the tech and design if they wanted. Stylized, but still futuristic.

Something like the interior of this concept car;
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Looks futuristic, but retro at the same time.

Personally, I would have loved to see retro-futuristic designs like this done with modern CG renderings and sfx;

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Would have made the show stand out as different compared to the generic sci-fi look it went with.
 
I've said it before that they could have easily gone with 'retro-futuristic' aesthetics for the tech and design if they wanted. Stylized, but still futuristic.

Something like the interior of this concept car;
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Looks futuristic, but retro at the same time.

Personally, I would have loved to see retro-futuristic designs like this done with modern CG renderings and sfx;

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Would have made the show stand out as different compared to the generic sci-fi look it went with.
That doesn't really work anymore, except as parody. Venture Bros uses it a lot to great effect, but it's mocking that period for promising a lot and never delivering.
 
I've said it before that they could have easily gone with 'retro-futuristic' aesthetics for the tech and design if they wanted. Stylized, but still futuristic.

Something like the interior of this concept car;
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Looks futuristic, but retro at the same time.

Personally, I would have loved to see retro-futuristic designs like this done with modern CG renderings and sfx;

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Would have made the show stand out as different compared to the generic sci-fi look it went with.
As noted in the video, it looks like something out of 2001....the movie, not the year
 
The transporter device works faster too. It's supposed to look like this but the uniforms don't match up either. Will the enterprise bridge look like this when they encounter it?
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Starbase Yorktown in Beyond had some retro-futuristic design aethetics as well. Something like this;
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It's what I always imagined a modern interpretation of the Kirk era of Trek would look like.

Not the gritty, dark, Battlestar Galactica-inspired aesthetics.

Though we'll see if this 'Prime Timeline' thing actually pans out on STD.
 
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Starbase Yorktown in Beyond had some retro-futuristic design aethetics as well. Something like this;
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It's what I always imagined a modern interpretation of the Kirk era of Trek would look like.

Not the gritty, dark, Battlestar Galactica-inspired aesthetics.

Though we'll see if this 'Prime Timeline' thing actually pans out on STD.


If they make it looks remotely like Kelvin fans would be having kittens. Man its not 1966, its not gonna look old and retro only appeals to a subset of trek fans.

Edit: Also Tommowland flopped bigtime.
 
I noticed that tech technology shown in the Star Trek Discovery appears vastly superior to the technology shown in the original series. Like the interfaces and communication devices are holographic projections, environmental suits have fancy displays in them, warp drives appear faster, shuttles look better, consoles look like post TNG consoles. How did all of this happen? I suspect it had something to do with the temporal cold war and the future sharing technology with the past or perhaps Q later takes their technology away because the Q thinks humanity is advancing too quickly?

Christ, is there a facepalm GIF we can just use for the billionth thread about this?
 
Yeah the only gripe I have are the uniforms, it isn't that hard to update them.

It's precisely WHY it isn't hard to update the uniforms that they will never be a problem. Just say that Starfleet likes to change uniform styles a lot. Problem solved.

That said, I did hear that the DSC costuming department has created some much more Cage-like unis and has them stored away for future use. FWIW.
 
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The transporter device works faster too. It's supposed to look like this but the uniforms don't match up either. Will the enterprise bridge look like this when they encounter it?


A 1960 office/ nuke bunker with transitor tube screens and such? No. It will look a mix between the Walker and crossfield class bridges with the DSC uniforms
 
*sigh*
Okay. I feel you. I don't even like the 60s aesthetic, but I still get what you're trying to say. Unfortunately, we're just going to have to accept the new show for what it is. I mean, you can always picture them on the old style sets and in the old style uniforms if it bothers you that much--it's not that difficult.
 
So, splitting this to the Aesthetics and Tech halves, what do we really have left in the latter?

Transporters, phasers, shuttlecraft, warp, shields... They all seem the same, functionally. Interfaces - the 2250s apparently have some really clumsy ones, involving helmets and things you have to attach to your fingers. Spacesuits - the 2250s ones are more rigid, but is there a functional difference?

Interfaces in general... In the 2250s, you can lurk a bit more easily. In the 2260s, the holograms will look more solid if a bit cartoony. Forcefields in the 2250s are less transparent. What else?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Interfaces - the 2250s apparently have some really clumsy ones, involving helmets and things you have to attach to your fingers. Spacesuits - the 2250s ones are more rigid, but is there a functional difference?


Timo Saloniemi

That may have just been the walker class as it was old. Do we see anyone using the Helm on the Discovery?
 
I noticed that tech technology shown in the Star Trek Discovery appears vastly superior to the technology shown in the original series. Like the interfaces and communication devices are holographic projections, environmental suits have fancy displays in them, warp drives appear faster, shuttles look better, consoles look like post TNG consoles. How did all of this happen? I suspect it had something to do with the temporal cold war and the future sharing technology with the past or perhaps Q later takes their technology away because the Q thinks humanity is advancing too quickly?
They're literally doing whatever they want but are calling it the Prime Universe because they can. They probably believe they'll get more CBS subscriptions from crusty old die-hards that way.

Personally, I'm seeing it as a new modern take on the Star Trek mythos.
 
Is this the same PRIME-TIMELINE where FIRST CONTACT happened & the 1701-E crew just could not help themselves & tell ZC that by the way there will be a 100ft version of you standing right over there ? Why oh why did they not follow the rules of not interacting w/ a pre-warp planet ? Oh, I forget it's our perfect 24th cent Enterprise crew, they can do no wrong... It's like when McCoy left his communicator behind in "A piece of the action" Did the E-E crew even bother to clean up after themselves, nope, they stuck around just to witness history happen a history they weren't ever a part of in the first place.

Then they just took off as if somehow what they did would not have any impact on the future. In other words the Borg weren't the only ones who changed the future. Heck one only has to look at "Enterprise" to see the impact the Next Gen crew did have by being in the past they weren't meant to be part of. So if you want to lay the blame on why things look "more advanced the Kirk's timeline" look right at the events from "First Contact" and say to yourself "SO THAT'S WHY!" and move on from there.

Remember "First Contact" didn't have any magical "Red Matter" to create an alternate universe, this happened in THE PRIME TIMELINE, and no amount of hand-wavingum will change it, heck I suspect if they made another TNG film the tech would have changed due to them being so careless during "First Contact" there would of been a ripple effect and suddenly things would of looked like 100 years of tech advancement had happened, no one would of blinked an eye at it as "It has always been this way" In other words we're talking a Back To The Future style time-line change, none of this multi-verse timeline stuff.

It's pretty simple, no red matter, no multi-verse timeline, so we're stuck w/ more advance tech, I can live with it and deal with it, because as it stands right now, the only Star Trek that looks 'Out Of Place' time-line wise is TOS, everything before it, more advance tech wise, everything after it same deal, it sticks out like a sore thumb, can I still watch it ? Yes, do I know if they ever revisit it it won't look the same ? Yes, and all because Picard & Crew were too busy hero worshiping to keep their mouths shut about the future.

;-)
 
I remember reading somewhere that the in universe explaination for TOS era looking so low tech was that the ships were designed for accessibility, and that all of the higher processing was done underneath with easy use switches etc. It's ropey at best but works for me.
 
I noticed that tech technology shown in the Star Trek Discovery appears vastly superior to the technology shown in the original series. Like the interfaces and communication devices are holographic projections, environmental suits have fancy displays in them, warp drives appear faster, shuttles look better, consoles look like post TNG consoles. How did all of this happen? I suspect it had something to do with the temporal cold war and the future sharing technology with the past or perhaps Q later takes their technology away because the Q thinks humanity is advancing too quickly?

Just because TOS looks old fashioned does not mean the technology actually was.

They had tablets (albeit just shown as a box with a white screen that was passed around), so you can reason whatever you want into TOS. Just like TNG and TOS were married together in canon before, we can marry DSC and TOS with a little imagination.
 
After watching many reviews, I'm keen to believe maybe something happens. TNG mentioned mutiny, and how it had never happened before (someone fact check me). Nobody saw a Gorn until TOS (Fact check again) and all these little blurbs here and there...as if nobody has watched any Star Trek...but then they will make an obscure reference to the animated television series...it make me wonder that what we are seeing, might be altered, or isn't really the prime universe.
 
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