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When Trek insults our intelligence

I wouldn't call it "average." I'd say it's a terribly flawed (but not that bad) series with more potential than any previous franchise venture -- especially in its lead character.
 
I wouldn't call it "average." I'd say it's a terribly flawed (but not that bad) series with more potential than any previous franchise venture -- especially in its lead character.
Given that its a first season of a new show, I would tend towards average, but my experience is highly limited and I'm ok being wrong ;)
 
I'm sure there are lots of TOS and TNG examples. I admit I tend to get hung up on JJ.

TNG: The Dyson sphere. Not the artifact itself, but how quickly things happen and how rapidly they are in jeopardy. It takes them how long to fall into the sun? I might as well be watching Legends of Tomorrow.

Now if they were going to lose power and crash into the sphere itself...

Has anyone mentioned the BIG HORKING BOOK to translate Klingon in The Undiscovered Country?

And I've never been all that happy with The Motion Picture's insistence that there are no defenses between the Klingon border and EARTH. Maybe they were massing on the Romulan border that week?

OK, I tried. I now return you to your regularly scheduled Disco bashing.
 
I wonder what the sci-fi community would think of Disco if it had not dared to call itself Star Trek?
I suspect it probably would have been highly rated. The main complaints seem to be around the continuity differences and it's lack of "Star Trek optimism". So without those issues to complain about there's not much left. Still has an unlikable main character (for me at least) but plenty of shows seem to make that work successfully. The biggest issue with not labelling it Star Trek would be
the use of the mirror universe tied into the original series episode
To do that outside the Star Trek universe would have required a bit more groundwork to set it up and differentiate it from what had been seen in prior Star Trek shows.
 
I think it’s an 8/10, I really enjoy watching it. The production quality is great. I try to ignore any continuity stuff though, maybe TPTB will explain it later.:shrug:

Agreed on all counts.

That's all I have to say. I'm outta here!

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Despite my oodles of Star Trek encyclopedias, visual guides and starship references, I would rather enjoy the show than worry if it perfectly fits together.

Amen. I own and have happily digested just about every Trek reference book, tech manual, and chronology that's ever been made. But, at the end of the day, they're only there for the same thing that DSC, the Kelvin films, and any other iteration of Trek are there for: pure fun and enjoyment.
 
And I've never been all that happy with The Motion Picture's insistence that there are no defenses between the Klingon border and EARTH. Maybe they were massing on the Romulan border that week?

OK, I tried. I now return you to your regularly scheduled Disco bashing.

Well, the Epsilon IX listening station could have been very heavily armed - that wouldn't have saved it from V'ger.

It is my assumption that the Federation and Starfleet defense plan for defending Earth was sort of like Kandron of Onlo's strategy for defending Onlo in Second Stage Lensman - let the attacker get almost to the top of the atmosphere and blast them with enough power to instantly vaporize the entire attacking force. No doubt that is a bit of an exaggeration since it would take a bit of time to vaporize everything in an attacking force.

Of course Earth's super powerful defense shields and giant phasers and giant photon torpedo tubes would have only a tiny fraction of the power of Onlo's defenses. Earth's defense shields would probably be designed to withstand merely a few tens of times the combined firepower of the Romulan and Klingon fleets and then blast them with a few tens of times the firepower necessary to instantly break down the Romulan and Klingon shields and vaporize their ships. Starfleet, unlike Kandron, was not expecting or preparing to withstand an attack by literally millions of space battleships accompanied by mobile planets and mobile planetary mass balls of antimatter.

So starfleet probably didn't see any need to keep a few starships between Earth and the Klingons, because they knew that if the Klingons did attack the attack force would inevitably be destroyed. Earth was "loaded for Klingons and Romulans". Then in Star Trek: The Motion Picture V'ger came and it turned out that Earth's defense system was not loaded for V'ger.

CHEKOV: All planetary defence systems have just gone inoperative.

http://www.chakoteya.net/movies/movie1.html
 
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