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Let's just leave that battle in the dust. It really doesn't matter anymore, because the truth is after all a 3-edged sword.
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When Does Babylon 5 not get boring?? lol...
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Infraction for flaming, comments to PM
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Let's just leave that battle in the dust. It really doesn't matter anymore, because the truth is after all a 3-edged sword.
Ah-ah! Do NOT watch 'In The Beginning' first as that list suggests. Seriously, *huge* spoilers. ITB is a prequel story that fills in a lot of blanks, so it is best left until at least after season 4.That'll do, cheers.
Simplest thing to do it watch 'The Gathering' (special edition preferably) then the five seasons, then the movies in whatever order you feel like. Really, aside from 'A Call to Arms' which was a transition into the 'Crusade' spin-off, they're just stand alone stories and once you've seen the show already, it doesn't matter which order you view them in.
If jms himself says it's okay to watch "In the Beginning" first, then it's a viable alternative. Personally, I feel it works better when you don't know what it reveals until seen in the original broadcast sequence after S4. I liked going back to revisit "history" so to speak.
Might I suggest this as an alternative: Reference list. It emphasizes the "Wham!" episodes, those which are integral to the advancement of the overall arc. The list that you've provided, DonIago is a nice one as well, since it puts episodes in a better sequence chronologically, making corrections on the original US broadcast sequence
Yea, JMS says it's fine, but, if I had it all to do again for the first time, I wouldn't watch ITB until after all it's spoilers have already played out. That is the way I saw it first, since I started watching from the Pilot, and I wouldn't want to change that. It's a great first episode for a rewatch, though to remind you what to watch for in S1
Ah-ah! Do NOT watch 'In The Beginning' first as that list suggests. Seriously, *huge* spoilers. ITB is a prequel story that fills in a lot of blanks, so it is best left until at least after season 4.That'll do, cheers.
Simplest thing to do it watch 'The Gathering' (special edition preferably) then the five seasons, then the movies in whatever order you feel like. Really, aside from 'A Call to Arms' which was a transition into the 'Crusade' spin-off, they're just stand alone stories and once you've seen the show already, it doesn't matter which order you view them in.
If jms himself says it's okay to watch "In the Beginning" first, then it's a viable alternative. Personally, I feel it works better when you don't know what it reveals until seen in the original broadcast sequence after S4. I liked going back to revisit "history" so to speak.
Might I suggest this as an alternative: Reference list. It emphasizes the "Wham!" episodes, those which are integral to the advancement of the overall arc. The list that you've provided, DonIago is a nice one as well, since it puts episodes in a better sequence chronologically, making corrections on the original US broadcast sequence
Since that list includes plot descriptions, I'd advise Servo to steer clear, just in case.
Really though, if he's decided to slog through the entire fist season regardless, then I don't think we need to fuss. If he's not hooked by that cliffhanger, then it may not be his cup of tea.
If you decide to keep going (as most do) it's really best to keep things simple: Pilot>Seasons 1-5>In the Beginning>Thirdspace>River of Souls>A Call to Arms & if you're still hungry for scraps (coz that's all that's left) then check out Crusade, Legend of the Rangers and Lost Tales in any old order that suits you.
Ah-ah! Do NOT watch 'In The Beginning' first as that list suggests. Seriously, *huge* spoilers. ITB is a prequel story that fills in a lot of blanks, so it is best left until at least after season 4.That'll do, cheers.
Simplest thing to do it watch 'The Gathering' (special edition preferably) then the five seasons, then the movies in whatever order you feel like. Really, aside from 'A Call to Arms' which was a transition into the 'Crusade' spin-off, they're just stand alone stories and once you've seen the show already, it doesn't matter which order you view them in.
If jms himself says it's okay to watch "In the Beginning" first, then it's a viable alternative. Personally, I feel it works better when you don't know what it reveals until seen in the original broadcast sequence after S4. I liked going back to revisit "history" so to speak.
I always watch "In the Beginning" first, simply because, as the title suggests, it's In the beginning. That, plus I've re-watched the series so many times now that there are no spoilers left.
The very first time I saw the show however, I did not watch it first, stupidly assuming that the movies made after the series were meant to be seen that way, and it annoyed me no end. The whole "Londo flashbacks" scenes are irrelevant. The point of the movie is the Earth-Minbari war which took place ten years before the first season, so that's the proper place for it.
But hey, that's just what I do.
I always watch "In the Beginning" first, simply because, as the title suggests, it's In the beginning. That, plus I've re-watched the series so many times now that there are no spoilers left.
The very first time I saw the show however, I did not watch it first, stupidly assuming that the movies made after the series were meant to be seen that way, and it annoyed me no end. The whole "Londo flashbacks" scenes are irrelevant. The point of the movie is the Earth-Minbari war which took place ten years before the first season, so that's the proper place for it.
But hey, that's just what I do.
I always think that "In the Beginning" plays better after "Atonement" in season four as it's almost part and parcel of that episode.
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I always watch "In the Beginning" first, simply because, as the title suggests, it's In the beginning. That, plus I've re-watched the series so many times now that there are no spoilers left.
The very first time I saw the show however, I did not watch it first, stupidly assuming that the movies made after the series were meant to be seen that way, and it annoyed me no end. The whole "Londo flashbacks" scenes are irrelevant. The point of the movie is the Earth-Minbari war which took place ten years before the first season, so that's the proper place for it.
But hey, that's just what I do.
I like to put it between Objects in Motion and Sleeping in Light because the Londo scenes are important because...
They're part of the characters final scenes, which we've seen the conclusion to in World Without End, Part Two and it makes the noting of his absence in the finale a bit more poignant.
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Huh... hadn't thought of that variation before... but I like it. Nice work!
A combo The Gathering / In The Beginning DVD is what got me to blind-buy B5 S1.
But honestly I think it was the awesomeness of In The Beginning, especially the fantastic Londo/G'Kar stuff, Londo's speach about humans and the burning of a certain homeworld that made me so keen on B5 I was able to overlook any problems with S1 and power on through.
So, my vote is to start with In The Beginning. It will show you how a few of the characters end, yes, but in doing so it will show you the heights that B5 can achieve.
As to the topic of DS9 ripping off B5, what utter, ignorant nonsense that is.
But honestly I think it was the awesomeness of In The Beginning, especially the fantastic Londo/G'Kar stuff, Londo's speach about humans and the burning of a certain homeworld that made me so keen on B5 I was able to overlook any problems with S1 and power on through.
So, my vote is to start with In The Beginning. It will show you how a few of the characters end, yes, but in doing so it will show you the heights that B5 can achieve.
As to the topic of DS9 ripping off B5, what utter, ignorant nonsense that is.
Oh, there's enough truth to it, alright. BUT, as I always like to say, it gave us TWO glorious space opera epics to enjoy, so what the hell.
Oh, there's enough truth to it, alright. BUT, as I always like to say, it gave us TWO glorious space opera epics to enjoy, so what the hell.
My feelings exactly.
Cmdr_Blop
Lieutenant Commander
End of second season and up... once things go south with Earth (can't really say more without spoilers), the stories and the characters really begin to take shape. As the series progresses, look especially to Londo... his character undergoes the most profound development, IMO.
I watched In the Beginning first, when the series leaped to
TNT. Then I watched the reruns of season 1 concurrently with the broadcast of season five. Well, the older seasons were shown daily and season five was shown weekly. I think seeing that there was an endgame helped me through some of the doldrums. Which were not always the standalone episodes, oddly enough.
Re DS9 and BSG, maybe the starting point for DS9 was uncomfortably similar. Space station, OK, but a space station whose commander Has A Destiny? Oh, dear, oh, dear.
But there's more to a series than a starting point, particularly in a heavily serialized series. We are supposed to love the Prophets without question in DS9 and in B5 we tell the Vorlons as well as the Shadows to get the hell out of our galaxy. They are very different series.
TNT. Then I watched the reruns of season 1 concurrently with the broadcast of season five. Well, the older seasons were shown daily and season five was shown weekly. I think seeing that there was an endgame helped me through some of the doldrums. Which were not always the standalone episodes, oddly enough.
Re DS9 and BSG, maybe the starting point for DS9 was uncomfortably similar. Space station, OK, but a space station whose commander Has A Destiny? Oh, dear, oh, dear.
But there's more to a series than a starting point, particularly in a heavily serialized series. We are supposed to love the Prophets without question in DS9 and in B5 we tell the Vorlons as well as the Shadows to get the hell out of our galaxy. They are very different series.
The scene in the TNT version of the B5 pilot movie where Kosh first meets Sinclair and addresses him as Valen was dubbed in for the 1998 special edition of the pilot (along with Kosh’s glowing hand) – neither happened in the 1993 original. Because in 1993 Sinclair wasn’t going to be Valen, that story idea (and a few others) only developed later. ; )Re DS9 and BSG, maybe the starting point for DS9 was uncomfortably similar. Space station, OK, but a space station whose commander Has A Destiny? Oh, dear, oh, dear.
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