When did the perception of Insurrection change?

[DonIago]

If you believe TPTB, the story for ID was conceived before the decision was made to make him Khan, so to say the movie was an intentional remake is doing it somewhat of a disservice.

Anyway, in terms of scope I'd say NEM tried harder than INS.

 

[JarodRussell]

If you believe TPTB, the story for ID was conceived before the decision was made to make him Khan, so to say the movie was an intentional remake is doing it somewhat of a disservice.

Anyway, in terms of scope I'd say NEM tried harder than INS.

As far as I know, Lindelof is responsible for all Khan and TWOK related rip offs in this film. It's not that the whole film is a remake. It's just that the second half is a conglomerate of rip offs and unoriginality.

 

[DonIago]

Eh. I thought the rip offs and unoriginality were reasonably well-executed. (shrug)

Certainly better than when NEM took its turn at doing the same thing.

 

[Greg Cox]

come on, say what you will about TFF but it does have ambition and an attempt at epic scope.

"the Enterprise goes to find God," flawed as a premise though it may be, is not small-scale.

Good point!

 

[sonak]

I'd say INS tried a lot harder than NEM and STID, which just looked at the most popular Star Trek movie and tried to remake it.

INS is a case of too many people pushing in different directions. I enjoy it, but it's a mess. First Contact is flawed, but has a clearer direction to it.

I was referring to trying to make it a movie with an epic scope, not trying to make it a good movie, of course they all tried to make good movies.

INS was the only movie deliberately written to have a small scope, so as not to try to "outdo" a previous movie that was an epic action movie. They were aiming low from the beginning.

NEM and STID are both clearly movies that are meant to be grand and epic.