Those 6 items I listed for DISCO, yes.
And in case I wasn't clear before, I'll say it more directly... we'll have to agree to disagree, because neither of us are going to budge on this.
When did Discovery JUMP the Shark?
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Those 6 items I listed for DISCO, yes.
And in case I wasn't clear before, I'll say it more directly... we'll have to agree to disagree, because neither of us are going to budge on this.
I believe Nerys meant for the many times it's happened in Trek in general, not just for DSC.
Like it's fine to have that opinion on DSC, but do you overlook it for prior shows?
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It's not as big a problem on the other shows because unlike DISCO, they aren't season long arcs that are dependant on this. And the fate of the entire galaxy wasn't resting on such small universe syndrome with people related to the leads, either.
With the other shows, if you didn't like that particular story or plot point, you can skip it because it was one episode. Two if you are dealing with something like "Descent".
But with an entire season anchored by it? Especially when they don't stick the landing? I can't get past that.
I definitely don't.
Dad????Star Trek is stupid. You heard it here first!
Ok, probably not.
I don't see the difference. One episode, one arc, one movie one book...one whatever. Maybe the next one will be better. Or Maybe I'll skip it. Silly distinction to make.
I do see the distinction, and since I am watching it (or not, if I decide), that's what matters to me. Just like your opinion matters to you.
So, AGAIN... moving on.
I saw the original shark jump.
Before it was just a fish hop.
Damn you, Fonzi!
You rank all of them higher than seasons of Picard? Seriously?
S3 of Discovery is some of the worst Star Trek I've ever seen. The Kelpian Burn storyline was awful writing, and the story arc for the season was no better. The Emerald Chain, the Federation, Booker, the interior shot of Discovery that wildy distorts the size of the ship, and so much more. Truly Star Trek has rarely been as disappointing. I haven't watched any Discovery since the end of S3 and I don't know when I'll gather the strength to.
The issue with Discovery is the poor writing. I don't hate the decisions the producers likely made (though who signed off on the Klingon design should exit Star Trek forever) but mirror universe, Section 31 AI, all of S3, narratively story arcs and characters were just terribly imagined and developed. Voq for example, need I say more?
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WRONG.
I'm not who you responded to, but... Discovery versus Picard.
This is how I rank the seasons, not including DSC S5 which is still in progress.
PIC Season 3
PIC Season 1
DSC Season 1
DSC Season 4
DSC Season 2
DSC Season 3
PIC Season 2
I don't actually dislike any of them, but I'll piss off some Discovery fans for ranking 2/3 of Picard over it, and I'll piss off some Picard fans for ranking S2 below all of Disco.
One way or another, someone's going to have an issue some way over how I ranked them. Not a problem, though. Different opinions are what make this place interesting.
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No, no, you are to be browbeaten into accepting the general consensus of the descending swarm. SNW is all that matters, so much so that it should be treated as the franchise's year zero... its km 0. Everything must be evaluated by how much it shares in similarity to SNW, and anything that calls SNW's primacy into question must be ruthlessly suppressed, no matter how many award nominations, merch sales, or fan engagement it garners...
Ranking seasons of this show seems to be far more varied than any other Star Trek series. No one really argues TOS season 3 was the best. Almost everyone considers TNG seasons 3, 4, and 6, DS9 seasons 4-6, VGR seasons 4-5, and ENT seasons 3-4 were the peak for their respective shows. Whereas for this one, each season seems to have their "peak" fans.
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When the dust settles, I think the general consensus for the best seasons of Discovery will be Seasons 1 and 5. People who like what the show started off as the most will prefer Season 1. People who like what the show ultimately became the most will prefer Season 5.
The fifth season isn't over yet, but I've seen enough now to figure this is how it's probably going to go.
Season 2 had the switch in showrunners part-way through and it's really obvious. People who say Season 2 is their favorite tend to be fans of SNW and like it as their favorite because of Pike. The most common complaints specific to Season 4 are that it dragged on, became "too emo" (neither or which are my opinion of S4, but the ones I've noticed the most), and that all the rough edges were sanded off (this one I do agree with). Season 3 crammed too much in and people will either love the cause of The Burn or hate it, and they'll either like The Burn in and of itself or hate it.
TNG Season 5 having such a soft middle stretch is what really does it in.
