Whats your favourite movie?

[Lucky]

1. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
3. Star Trek: First Contact
4. Star Trek Into Darkness
5. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
6. Star Trek (2009)
7. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
8. Star Trek: Nemesis
9. Star Trek: Generations
10. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
11. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
12. Star Trek: Insurrection

 

[Memory Alpha]

TNG:
1. First Contact
2. Insurrection
3. Generations




4. Nemesis

Original Series:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. Search For Spock
3. The Motion Picture
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Voyage Home
6. The Final Frontier

In all honesty, I like all six original films, and ranking them is hard, but I suppose if I had to, that's how I would rank them. I would switch TUC and TMP, but TUC has too many plot problems.

In First Contact vs. Wrath of Khan, the winner is Wrath of Khan. There's just no beating it, IMO.

 

[Franklin]

It's a done to death thread but I don't give a shit. We all have to join The Trek BBS at some point right? I've only been on here a couple of years, I bet there's people who've been on here for a lot longer than that.

Im sorry bud... Maybe I should have searched for an existing thread,I didnt mean to make anyone upset...

And you didn't in any way upset me - I was actually agreeing with you, and quite enjoy a quick ranking session. I'm pretty sure I started a 'best movie' thread when I first joined.

It's the law.

That and it's hardly like there's one of these a week. It's kind of fun to note the variance in the lists. It's also a reminder of how varied the movies are. Ranking them can be as much a matter of one's mood at the moment than a ranking of definite favorites. Here's mine right now:

1. STID
2. TVH
3. TWOK
4. ST09
5. TMP
6. TUC
7. TSFS
8. FC

An obvious TOS bias, there. Though ranked, they're close enough to each other that I'd sit down to any of those right now. The remaining four? Eh.

 

[Galileo7]

My best to least favorite:
WOK
TMP
TUC
TFF
STID
ST 2009
SFS
TVH
FC
NEMESIS
GENERATIONS
INSURRECTION

 

[Vger23]

I always like these threads, because it gives you a lot of insight into the board members by looking at their tastes.

I rank mine "favorite to least favorite" with the spaces between indicating the separation between them.

1. The Wrath of Khan

2. The Search for Spock
3. The Motion Picture

4. The Final Frontier


5. First Contact
6. 2009



7. The Undiscovered Country


8. Into Darkness
9. Nemesis

10. Generations



11. The Voyage Home













12. Insurrection

 

[Orphalesion]

I don't like a lot of the ST movies, I prefer Trek as a series rather than movies and I have very little interest in the TOS characters (which populate the majority of the movies sadly)

Up until recently the Undiscovered Country was my "favorite" by default, mainly because I'm interested in the collapse of the Soviet Union and liked it as a SciFi allegory of that era. Also this whole "the Future - the undiscovered country" theme has a nice, poetic ring to it.

However a forum member here convinced me to finally, after all these years to give Nemesis a try and, I might get strangled for this, but it is now my favorite ST movie.
The ship battle at the climax was WAAAAAAY too long and the scene where they apparently gun down pre-warp aliens while driving a dune buggy was bizarre.
BUT (!) the overall movie was really good and included many aspects I wish they had already come up with when TNG was still on the air:

1) Shinzon was an awesome villain. So what if he was Picard's rebellious teenage son? I found their dynamic interesting.
2) I loved the Remans!
3) Deanna Troi using her mental abilities to discover a cloaked ship! I wish they had used her like that on the series!
4) I liked the character of the female Romulan officer who recognized that Shinzon was going to far and went to ally with the enemy to stop him. (if this had been done during the series like I wish this character would likely have been Sela)

 

[eyeresist]

^ I agree with your points

The phrase "The Undiscovered Country" as used in the movie is actually an inaccurate use of Shakespeare's original, which meant "the place we go when we die" (it's from Hamlet's "To be or not to be" speech). Nick Meyer had also wanted to use this as the title for TWOK, so I think he liked the phrase itself more than its meaning.

 

[Cyke101]

Not to mention that my order shifts around quite a lot down the years.

I'm so sure that comparing any of my two lists over the years won't match up, aside from the bottom of the barrel. I do have to clarify, like then and now, that the first three on my list can change depending on whether or not the day of the week ends in the letter "y."

Moving on...

The Undiscovered Country
First Contact
The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek (2009)
The Motion Picture
The Voyage Home
The Search for Spock
Into Darkness
Generations
The Final Frontier
Nemesis
Insurrection

Edit: Quite frankly, I'd watch the first seven in a heartbeat if they came on TV, but if they were broadcast simultaneously, then those are my preferences in order. #s 8-10 on the list I'll maybe watch if I feel so inclined. I just can't bring myself to make time for the last two, though.

 

[Orphalesion]

The phrase "The Undiscovered Country" as used in the movie is actually an inaccurate use of Shakespeare's original, which meant "the place we go when we die" (it's from Hamlet's "To be or not to be" speech). Nick Meyer had also wanted to use this as the title for TWOK, so I think he liked the phrase itself more than its meaning.

I know, I'm an English major . It's quite itneresting that Hamlet gets a lot of misquotation, also see the "what a piece of work is a man!" speech. Probably because it contains in many parts the most moving and beautiful of Shakespear's writing (imho)

Interesting that with TWOK, I'm glad it was used in the story about the onset of a new era instead of the "KAHHHHHHHHN!" movie.

I quite like to see when passages and phrases get taken otu of context by a later work of art and given new meaning.

 

[eyeresist]

Interesting that with TWOK, I'm glad it was used in the story about the onset of a new era instead of the "KAHHHHHHHHN!" movie.

It could have worked. I don't know how Meyer used it, but I can see Kahn telling Kirk, before he dies, that he would be waiting for him in the undiscovered country.

 

[Cyke101]

The phrase "The Undiscovered Country" as used in the movie is actually an inaccurate use of Shakespeare's original, which meant "the place we go when we die" (it's from Hamlet's "To be or not to be" speech). Nick Meyer had also wanted to use this as the title for TWOK, so I think he liked the phrase itself more than its meaning.

I know, I'm an English major . It's quite itneresting that Hamlet gets a lot of misquotation, also see the "what a piece of work is a man!" speech. Probably because it contains in many parts the most moving and beautiful of Shakespear's writing (imho)

I'd posit that only Kirk uses the phrase incorrectly. Gorkon says it's the future, but I'd wager that he knew that his future meant DEATH!

(Okay, I don't actually believe that -- I'm stretching more than a Cytherian subspace distortion. I'm just trying to help Gorky save face here. He died a martyr for a greater cause, after all!)

 

[Smellmet]

Not to mention that my order shifts around quite a lot down the years.

I'm so sure that comparing any of my two lists over the years won't match up, aside from the bottom of the barrel. I do have to clarify, like then and now, that the first three on my list can change depending on whether or not the day of the week ends in the letter "y."

Moving on...

The Undiscovered Country
First Contact
The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek (2009)
The Motion Picture
The Voyage Home
The Search for Spock
Into Darkness
Generations
The Final Frontier
Nemesis
Insurrection

Edit: Quite frankly, I'd watch the first seven in a heartbeat if they came on TV, but if they were broadcast simultaneously, then those are my preferences in order. #s 8-10 on the list I'll maybe watch if I feel so inclined. I just can't bring myself to make time for the last two, though.

Oh mine shifts around quite a lot - I've recently found that TMP is top dog for me, after years of feeling it was a bit 'meh' TWOK will always be right up there, and by the same token I find FC slipping down the rankings as it ages - with Generations going the other way slightly. TFF and Insurrection will always be a t the bottom I think, especially TFF, and it'll be interesting to see how I feel about JJ Trek in another decade.

I've found the movies have aged with me - as I get older I appreciate different things about them that I didn't get when I was younger.

 

[Shazam!]

01. The Wrath Of Khan
02. The Undiscovered Country
03. First Contact
04. The Final Frontier
05. The Voyage Home
06. Generations
07. The Motion Picture
08. The Search for Spock
09. Star Trek
10. Nemesis
11. Insurrection
12. Into Darkness

 

[eyeresist]

Oh mine shifts around quite a lot - I've recently found that TMP is top dog for me, after years of feeling it was a bit 'meh'

Theatrical cut or "director's edition"? I'd like them to issue an edition where you can assemble your own cut from these two versions.

 

[Smellmet]

Yeah I wouldn't say no to that, for now, it's got to be the directors edition, the redone effects are a lot better than the original - especially when Vger attacks the Enterprise and the hull walk at the end, and it doesn't seem to lose much in terms of scenes or plot. I'd love to see the theatrical cut with the added effects ideally though.

 

[eyeresist]

To be honest, I preferred the original walk to Vger across the blocky landscape - the new version with the CGI-formed bridge seems gratuitous and less momentous. Also, that nacelle visible through the lounge window is too bright and crisp-looking - needs more blurring to suggest distance.

These are minor points in the scheme of things, of course.

 

[Smellmet]

To be honest, I preferred the original walk to Vger across the blocky landscape - the new version with the CGI-formed bridge seems gratuitous and less momentous. Also, that nacelle visible through the lounge window is too bright and crisp-looking - needs more blurring to suggest distance.

These are minor points in the scheme of things, of course.

Yeah I can agree with the nacelle point, it looks a bit 'stuck on' I liked the walk to vger sequence though.

I've only got the first 10 movies in a DVD box set (with both JJ movies on Blu-ray), that has the directors cut of TMP & TWOK (which I also prefer over the theatrical cut) in and if Paramount were to remaster them all in hi-def for the 50th, they can quite frankly 'take my money'

 

[bolak]

By far my favourite is the Motion Picture, it's the only one that conjures real tension and gives me an uplifting feeling at the end. Not only did they save the day ( without having to use their phasers ) but they also helped an entity achieve its destiny. A really epic feel to the film.

For me the rest of the TOS films veer from 'meh' to 'generic action film in space' and don't engage me.

TWOK: shooty-shooty space battle flick which makes Kirk and Khan both look like idiots
TSFS: it's an OK yarn but never really excites nor generates tension
TVH: the descent of Trek into slapstick nonsense. Is this time-travel yarn really canon? Or just a dream in Spock's head as he sweats under the Vulcan suns?
TFF: could have been better without the 'humour' but closer to its TOS roots in cameraderie
TUC: it's OK, at least the characters feel real and are facing-up to their fears

As for the TNG films I watched Generations and First Contact once each and none of the rest. The two films didn't seem to have any way of resolving the challenges other than blowing stuff up.

 

[eyeresist]

I wonder why the other movies' endings don't work for you? I find it odd you don't find the end of TWOK "uplifting". The sequence of Kirk's "I feel young", the camera discovering Spock's pod amidst the greenery, and then Spock's sepulchral voice giving the "final frontier" speech - it gets me every time.
TSFS ending with "Jim, your name is Jim" is also good. Even NEM has a nicely touching moment at the end, when Picard hears B-4 try to sing the song Data sang at the beginning of the film.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If I had to pick one it would probably be TWOK or TVH. Although the director's cut of TMP would be right up there as well.