Look in the mirror and around you. Everyone looks more or less the same. Unless I'm not getting your point.
What's with the Klingons?
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Yes, and those people are military prison guards!
Unless the Narada (full of future tech and historical files) being captured by the Klingons changed history and led to the Klingons finding a cure to their mutation sooner than they did in the prime universe, and 25 years after the fact, are slowly reverting back to their head ridged glory.
Also a possibility. Hell, the Narada's interference resulted in the Federation making contact with the Romulans 33 years earlier than in the old history and finding out what they looked like, so I guess its possible a new chain of events in the Klingon Empire happened as a result of the whole Nero thing. A cure could have been developed a little earlier than the late 2260s/2270.
I don't mean that there aren't general overall similarities. Of course there are. That wasn't what I meant.
I have to agree, I too hope we get to see some Klingons in the forthcoming (STXII) movie.
In TOS, the "major races" (Vulcans/Romulans, Klingons) are basically humans with differences in ears/hair/outfits. Perhaps not very differentiated from humans, but it did get the point across.
In TNG and beyond, I think they started getting silly with the Vulcan/Romulan prosthetics and the outfits. I thought the over-pronounced eyebrow ridges on Vulcans/Romulans didn't really add anything, and I especially thought the super-wide 80s shoulderpads on the Rommies was a bit too...um...."St. Elmo's Fire."
I really liked the Romulan look in STXI. First of all, the ears + bald-tatooed look carries the "otherness" of the Romulans very well, without resorting to the "forehead of the week" prosthetics. So in that sense, I think STXI brought it back to the TOS sensibility a bit. And I absolutely adored the wardrobe! Both because it appeals to my own goth/industrial sense of fashion (I could wear that stuff onstage!), but also because it didn't look dated—you could wear that in either Hamlet, Lord of the Rings, or Blade Runner.
The Klingon look in TNG and beyond was quite cool, and really started back in ST:TMP, and not silly. But it was a total break from TOS. There really is no middle ground. These glimpses of the helmet-wearing Klingons look interesting in their own way—not quite a middle ground, more to the more updated TMP-TNG look, but with a nod backwards as well. I like what the current team did with Romulans, and I'm optimistic that if they get to create a complete Klingon society—meaning Klingons both in-helmet and out of helmet—it will be quite interesting as well.
The closest some TNG and movie era Klingons had to a nose ridge were those small Bajoran-like ribbed thingies connecting their forehead ridges to their nose. But nothing this wild!
They could show BOTH kinds of Klingons. Smooth heads affected by the 2150s Levodian flu mutation and ridged warriors. Satisfy both camps.
OR they do neither the TOS look nor the ridged forehead look of the later series and come up with something, you know, different. Because if the goddamn make-up design of a fictional species is such an important aspect of them, they weren't really all that interesting in the first place.
I thought Coon came up with the Klingons and Colicos and Phillips with the make up.
I think it was necessary to avoid the "japanese stereotype" look that TOS Klingons had. It's a different species from a different planet. It needs to look at least a little foriegn.
Agreed. TOS Klingons simply didn't look alien, so I never had issues with introducing the ridges.
Same cannot be said for Romulan brow ridges. Those were completely unnecessary.
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