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What's with The Galileo Seven?

Scotty does seem to get mentioned whenever a formal transfer is mentioned, so yeah, he's probably it, although I get the impression that nothing is nailed down officially beyond the first officer position. One of those "captain's prerogative" situations.
 
Is it me or is this the most contrived episode of the original series? Despite all of the talk about logic in the episode, nothing about the episode seemed logical.

"Contrived" is exactly the word for it.

The writer presents the premise that Spock has risen to second-in-command of the Enterprise without having ever been given independent charge of a party of seven or eight people before.

Uh-huh.

That's like promoting a third-year cadet to captain and putting him in command of the Enterprise just because he saved the Earth.

Wait a minute... ;)

:guffaw: My thoughts exactly...
 
Is it me or is this the most contrived episode of the original series? Despite all of the talk about logic in the episode, nothing about the episode seemed logical.

"Contrived" is exactly the word for it.

The writer presents the premise that Spock has risen to second-in-command of the Enterprise without having ever been given independent charge of a party of seven or eight people before.

Uh-huh.

That's like promoting a third-year cadet to captain and putting him in command of the Enterprise just because he saved the Earth.

Wait a minute... ;)

:guffaw: My thoughts exactly...

You guys are being silly, and using a microscope on something that is made for...gasp..entertainment. I think we really need to realize that these are TV shows, and movies. They are not real. Your lives will be less stressful should you understand this simple truth..trust me.

Rob
 
Rob, remember, this is the internet. This is a Star Trek board on the internet!

True..very true. No offense intended...I understand we all have our different views of star trek. And it is fun to pull back the curtains to see what makes this or that tick..good point Forbin..

Rob
 
"Contrived" is exactly the word for it.

The writer presents the premise that Spock has risen to second-in-command of the Enterprise without having ever been given independent charge of a party of seven or eight people before.

Uh-huh.

That's like promoting a third-year cadet to captain and putting him in command of the Enterprise just because he saved the Earth.

Wait a minute... ;)

:guffaw: My thoughts exactly...

You guys are being silly, and using a microscope on something that is made for...gasp..entertainment. I think we really need to realize that these are TV shows, and movies. They are not real. Your lives will be less stressful should you understand this simple truth..trust me.

Rob
Wait a minute...Rob "I Start Twelve Threads A Day" Scorpio thinks people are taking Star Trek too seriously?!? :wtf:

Sorry, Rob, I'm not mocking you or anything, but, come on, show a little sense of irony, eh? :p
 
My big problem with that episode is that the crew members overlooked the fact that phasers do have a heavy stun setting, and therefore don't have to kill the creatures. Being heavily stunned would be as effective. Also, Spock should have put Boma on report. I can imagine what would have happened if Boma mouthed off to Kirk.

Maybe they simply hadn't written.... errr... I mean developed... the stun setting yet? :guffaw: :rolleyes: :eek:
 
I always loved this episode, because Spock stays so true to his logical, unemotional core. I thought it was quite bold- they committed themselves to his character in a way that the TNG writers were almost never able to do with Data. They made him what an unfeeling person would really be- a bastard. Bravo.


Except Spock - and Vulcans in general - do not have a logical, unemotional core. They have a very emotional core where they lock all those feelings away to show the world a logical, unemotional exterior.

Sadly, a misperception many people make. Including some of the book writers and writers of later series.

This is noted by watching Sarek, or listening to Surak's, Spock's or Sarek's discussions on the matter. Sarek was definitely a highly emotional person, as evidenced from his playfulness and teasing in sickbay, the years and years of "disowning" his son (c'mon, that's not logical - that's purely emotional in this case), the obvious love in his eyes for his son and wife...

...followed by similar portrayals by Mark Lenard in the movies, such as the "I've just swallowed a mouthfull of poop" look on his face at Spock's line in this exchange:

Sarek:
"I opposed your enlistment in to Starfleet, that judgment was incorrect, your associates are of good character."

Spock:
"They are my friends"

Sarek (looking like he just ate a turd):
"Yes, of course..."

and then of course:
"Do you have a message for your mother?"

What I think we saw (in this episode) was Spock over compensating by trying to bury all emotion entirely and act entirely on logic - until the end of course.
 
My big problem with that episode is that the crew members overlooked the fact that phasers do have a heavy stun setting, and therefore don't have to kill the creatures. Being heavily stunned would be as effective. Also, Spock should have put Boma on report. I can imagine what would have happened if Boma mouthed off to Kirk.

Maybe they simply hadn't written.... errr... I mean developed... the stun setting yet? :guffaw: :rolleyes: :eek:

Let me ask this...yes the phasers do in fact have a heavy stun setting...but "heavy stun" proved fruitless against these indescribable creatures...therefore, they were forced to use the dreaded kill setting.
 
Well, they never actually shot one. They attempted scaring them off with warning shots as per Mr. Spock's suggestion, but the only damage they delivered to one was by electric shock by applying current to the shuttlecraft's hull.
 
The stranded crew could probably have hunted the natives to extinction if they had properly used their tricorders for early warning and targeting, and had waited for the fog to clear before going out hunting...

Trying desperately to escape to space sounded like a foolish thing to do, unless our heroes had some reason to think that Kirk wouldn't return. And one might argue that they indeed did.

After all, Kirk had jeopardized an urgent medical mission by stopping to observe the Murasaki mini-quasar. Why? Was there some reason he couldn't return a week later to do a comprehensive study without hurry? It almost looks as if there was - perhaps another pressing mission was tying Kirk's hands.

(That mission would be an untelevised one, then, since the next episode in stardate order is "Court Martial" which doesn't involve any priority missions, while the next aired episode is "Balance of Terror" where the emergency is quite unanticipated.)

The other possibility is that Murasaki was far away from everything else, including Kirk's nominal operating areas. His emergency rendezvous might have sent him into unvisited territory, which was three high-warp-days away from a spot that in turn was several high-warp-days away from the nearest location of significance. Perhaps it would simply be logistically difficult to return to Murasaki.

Or perhaps there had been dangers en route - subspace storms, angry pirates, annoying entities of superior intellect, whatever...

Yet the episode makes no mention of these excuses for Kirk's non-return. Which makes Spock look even more of an idiot with his odd tactical and doctrinal choices.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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