I'm dying to know. I don't mind him at all. Although I was always amazed that he ended up on so many away missions which never really needed him....
What's with all the Neelix hating? LOL
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I'm dying to know. I don't mind him at all. Although I was always amazed that he ended up on so many away missions which never really needed him....
He is annoying in the way Jar Jar Binks is annoying. You want him gone from Voyager at the first opportunity because you just know that he is about to do something or say something that will drive Tuvok postal. And why waste a perfectly good functioning Vulcan when a superfluous annoying Talaxian can go out the airlock instead?
Awwwww come on, he's no Jar Jar Binks! I quite like Neelix... I guess I shouldnt admit that I got teary when he left then... 
Yeah well the bit where he leaves was kind of emotional, agreed. I think Neelix got less annoying later on, but he was really obnoxious, I think, in the beginning- and kind of similar to good ole Jam Jam, too, though his speech patterns weren't nearly as irritating.
Tuvok and young Obi-Wan would have become good friends, I suppose.
Tuvok and young Obi-Wan would have become good friends, I suppose.
I like Neelix, so you can put my vote in that column. He was pretty annoying in the early episodes, but I really warmed up to him when he hit his stride later. I am never a particular fan of early episodes in any of the series anyway; they are rather green and awkward, IMO. (i.e., Spock yelling, first two seasons of STNG, etc.)
I'm dying to know. I don't mind him at all. Although I was always amazed that he ended up on so many away missions which never really needed him....
I personally think Neelix came into his own during the episode "Jetrel". Here was this obnoxiously optimistic person and it turned out that behind the good cheer was a very painful past. Neelix had every reason to be a bitter person but he made the decision not to be and I find that admirable.
Besides, I thought he made a good foil for our Tuvie.
Besides, I thought he made a good foil for our Tuvie.
I adored Neelix. Granted, I found him a little annoying at times, but I enjoyed his banter with Tuvok. One episode that comes to mind with this is "Riddles". If you haven't seen it yet it's in year six..very good ep! Tuvok gets struck with a magnetic field of some kind and somehow all his logic is either dormant or non existant. Neelix had to help him overcome this obstacle and Tuvok also learned how to cook some yummy deserts! 
Eager, comic relief job, annoying voice, eager, younger audience interest, bad cook, eager, not sexy, monopolizes sexy girlfriend; scene stealer, did I say eager?
No, personally, I don't really mind him, except in "Mortal Coil"; and perhaps "Once Upon a Time" although this may be because I find fault with that episode as a whole (and I think there is practically consensus on that).
I wouldn't mind if he wasn't there either, but at least he is clearly non-human. There aren't that many characters in Voyager who don't look like humans, you've got to give him credit for that... OK, you can add "token alien" to the list!
Anyway, he's part of Voyager and it might be duller without him.
No, personally, I don't really mind him, except in "Mortal Coil"; and perhaps "Once Upon a Time" although this may be because I find fault with that episode as a whole (and I think there is practically consensus on that).
I wouldn't mind if he wasn't there either, but at least he is clearly non-human. There aren't that many characters in Voyager who don't look like humans, you've got to give him credit for that... OK, you can add "token alien" to the list!
Anyway, he's part of Voyager and it might be duller without him.
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Neelix the cat or Neelix the voyager?
Neelix did become more tolerable after he stopped being so jealous over Kes. Up until then I couldn't stand him. After that I kind of tuned out anything involving him. Annoying, jealous, temper tantrums are lame.
Which one?
I'm dying to know. I don't mind him at all. Although I was always amazed that he ended up on so many away missions which never really needed him....
I have never understood the dislike (and sometimes hatred too) of Neelix. I think he is a likeable character with a highly interesting, tragic and even fascinating background story.
I could never understand the hatred aimed at Wesley Crusher either. I think that he's OK, a bit too smart sometimes but OK and likeable.
And i'm actually annoyed with some people at another (not so friendly) forum who tries to steer up hate campaigns against Kes (who happens to be a favorite of mine).
Why do some people just have to hate certain characters with such a vengeance.
As for Jar-jar Binks, I find that character horrible but I still can't understand the hatred against him.
If you had been the teacher's son/daughter in school, you would understand. Or just the top of the class. That always attracts a lot of resentment. It's envy, though they won't admit it.
With Neelix, if you want to compare with Wesley, it's a little like the teacher's favourite.
(The one who sucks up to the teacher, not necessarily the best pupil.)
teacher's favourite + popular = big resentment
If you want to compare with Jar-Jar Binks, it's the conflict between what's for a grown-up audience and what's for children. The 2 don't mix well. I'll watch children's programs if I find them good, but I want franchises made for grown-ups to refrain from soliciting the younger audience.
But Neelix didn't completely do that. He was borderline, though, sometimes.
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I liked Neelix well enough, but I would have liked him a lot more if he'd been more of a pirate like Han Solo, and the conflict that would ensue between he and Janeway-- her know it all-ness, Starfleet regulations, and overall mission to get her people home, whereas Neelix could always be the wildcard ready to point out, "hey, I'm from here and you better listen to what I have to say because I'm probably right."
Granted that was sort of Chakotay's role too, but they watered him down so much I feel like they should have called him Arrowhead instead.
Granted that was sort of Chakotay's role too, but they watered him down so much I feel like they should have called him Arrowhead instead.
Neelix was an extremely important archetype and a suitable plot device.
Plus, we did see some un-annoying depths to his personality.
and, I just have to:
I liked Neelix. Star Trek has always done great with somehow meshing the whimsical in with all the seriousness.
Plus, we did see some un-annoying depths to his personality.
and, I just have to:
I liked Neelix. Star Trek has always done great with somehow meshing the whimsical in with all the seriousness.
he was just inconsequential which is why no one liked him. icheb was a whole lot more useful than neelix. they should have kept kes and dropped neelix off somewhere. at least kes with her phoenix-like powers would have had more utility.
He was informative as long as he was in the part of space he knew. Later on he had other uses.
I liked it when he did the Voyager TV journal.
Great point. The local pirate. Sexually charged banter with Janeway. That would have been an interesting character for more than one episode, possibly main cast. There were a couple of guest characters that came vaguely near that, but never all the way.I liked Neelix well enough, but I would have liked him a lot more if he'd been more of a pirate like Han Solo, and the conflict that would ensue between he and Janeway-- her know it all-ness, Starfleet regulations, and overall mission to get her people home, whereas Neelix could always be the wildcard ready to point out, "hey, I'm from here and you better listen to what I have to say because I'm probably right."
Granted that was sort of Chakotay's role too, but they watered him down so much I feel like they should have called him Arrowhead instead.
