You do realize you're responding to KRAD lmao
What's the worst non-canon decision in the history of Trek?
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Rephrased so I'm no longer replying to him in the third person. But then again, I wasn't replying to a PM, or even by a PM, so at worst, the original wording was a bit awkward. Glad I provided some amusement.
Yeah, I'm sure this was completely unintentional, but I even I noticed it after a while. I guess Deanna was luck their relationship didn't last very long.
I started rereading Immortal Coil, and it reminded me of another decision that annoyed me, when Rhea McAdams was killed in the Cold Equations trilogy. I really liked her and towards the end of trilogy I really started to like the idea of Data as a family man with him Rhea as his wife and them raising Lal together. I did like the stuff we got with single dad Data, but I still think happily married family man Data could have been an fun direction for the character.
Yeah, it's been a while, bit the execution seemed a little arbitrary, too- like, a contrived 'you can only choose one' scenario that wasn't very organic. But, I do remember at least appreciating Flint's characterization afterwards, that he wasn't vengeful, but still gracious in working to restore Lal.
For me, Ford's Klingons are kind of the upper class Klingons, maybe a bit throw-back, at times. Perhaps to an older, popular dynasty?
Kor and Martok are more popular culture, down with the boys types.
I've seen it said that the way Ford portrayed Klingon culture is basically how the shows portrayed Cardassian culture.
That was me who said that. I realized it when re-reading TFR in preparation for writing the first I.K.S. Gorkon book back in 2003: Ford wrote them as a people who value soldiers and service to the state, a dictatorship that's jointly run by the military and the shadowy intelligence organization. Which as a perfectly valid interpretation of the empire, based on the original and animated series and the first three movies.
And it's also exactly how the Cardassians developed over the course of TNG and DS9....
Indeed. "Errand of Mercy" established that Klingon officers are under constant surveillance by their superiors, and season 2-3 and TAS showed them mainly engaged in Cold War-style spy antics, dirty tricks, and infiltrations. The only TOS/TAS episode that really portrayed them as anything like the noble warrior culture we see them as today was "Day of the Dove." The Making of Star Trek defined Klingons as celebrating treachery and despising honesty, while Romulans were the honorable ones. The main reason that changed is that ST III was written to have Romulan villains and they were name-swapped to Klingons in later drafts, so that suddenly Klingons had cloaking Birds-of-Prey and talked about honor, even though that made no sense in prior context. And then TNG took that single throwaway reference to honor and built it into the Klingons' whole culture, since that's the stock way to portray a "warrior culture" as good guys rather than bad guys, as if killing people based on a code somehow makes it better. (And yet nobody has ever explained how it's honorable for warriors to sneak up on their enemies in invisible ships.)
And still, people insist that Trek always fit together perfectly until the newest productions started "changing the canon"...
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