Is it The Enterprise or just Enterprise?
Whats the correct way to use a ships name?
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The actual navy doesn't use "the" since it's a proper name.
But 80% of Star Trek uses "the" because it is largely written by civilians, so you could say it's changed usage in the future.
Either is valid, though it's become more common over the decades to drop the article, which is why newer Trek shows changed the usage.
But you should say "the USS Enterprise" or "the USS Voyager," because that stands for "the United [Federation of Planets] Star Ship Enterprise/Voyager," and thus it would be ungrammatical without the article.
But you should say "the USS Enterprise" or "the USS Voyager," because that stands for "the United [Federation of Planets] Star Ship Enterprise/Voyager," and thus it would be ungrammatical without the article.
Except Tom Paris in that one early episode and it was really awkward.You never hear anyone say “The Voyager”.
But no I don’t think it matters.
Parallax. And yes, very awkward.
Which ever feels right.
It only seems that way because the ship isn't normally referred to that way. I think if everyone had called the ship "the Voyager" throughout the run of the series, it would have seemed natural. But since that wasn't the case, it's not surprising that it sounds almost wrong...
I note that in the "Space the Final Frontier ..." recitation that opens so many Treks, Captain Leonard Nimoy is the only one who says of Enterprise "... her ongoing mission ..." .
Odd that the logical Vulcan would be the one to resort to feminine personification here, as opposed to the the easy default.
(I had thought that in Navy tradition, ships were usually addressed as feminine, unless circumstances dictated otherwise (e.g., Man Of War.))
Odd that the logical Vulcan would be the one to resort to feminine personification here, as opposed to the the easy default.
(I had thought that in Navy tradition, ships were usually addressed as feminine, unless circumstances dictated otherwise (e.g., Man Of War.))
Is it the Defiant or the Ben Sisko's Motherf#$#$ing Pimp Hand?
Love that you noticed this!
As you say, it was Nimoy delivering the narration, not Spock, who was dead at the time.
You never hear anyone say “The Voyager”.
But no I don’t think it matters.
And holo-Barclay in Projections. Multiple times. But perhaps he doesn't qualify as 'someone' saying it.
- " Oh, boy. The Voyager. Oh, boy. This is going to sound a little crazy from your perspective, but you've got to trust me. None of this is happening. This is all a holographic simulation that you've been running."
- "BARCLAY: Well, those are good questions. First, I can tell you how to destroy the Voyager. Second, if you don't do it, you're going to die. And third. Well, I'm just not an alien and I don't know how else to convince you of that."
- "You don't have memory circuits, you have a mind, and it's being damaged. Destroy the Voyager, the programme will end, and we can get you off the holodeck."
But I agree that it just sounded ... off.
Vulcans are both beings of logic and tradition.
Spock was choosing to emulate his human ancestor's tradition. It was only logical.
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