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What would Roddenberry want in XI??

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If we're talking about the GR of '87, he just would've fired the whole lot of 'em and we'd probably either get another TNG film or go another eighty years in Trek's future with the crew of the Enterprise-J (hopefully redesigned as something other than a warp driven pizza cutter).

oh come on! i think your being unfair. the ship doesnt look like a pizza cutter. it looks more like a high tech frizbee.:lol:
 
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i had read about that jfk script idea roddenberry had proposed. it sounded cool.:cool:

Didn't Red Dwarf end up doing that story?
did they? i'm not aware if they did. maybe.
With the first episode of Series 7, looks like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikka_to_Ride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir9vAnQW6I8 (Part 1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InmcSuVYrY (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmS2SnEXc8 (3)
 
certainly would've gotten rid of those characters that weren't supposed to be there, like Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura

I'm not so sure about that. When Vonda McIntyre was writing "Enterprise: The First Adventure" to help celebrate ST's 20th anniversary, there was some consultation with GR and he ended up reading, and providing media release quotes for, the novel. He was happy with the argument that people picking up "Enterprise: The First Adventure" would be expecting to see the big seven cast in their familiar roles, so Dr McCoy was allowed to be there, rather than Piper, and Chekov is shown as part of the crew.

killing Nero as a child.

GR would advocate killing a child before he's committed a crime?

or go another eighty years in Trek's future with the crew of the Enterprise-J

A whole new crew, plus new cast, plus new ship, plus new decade for a major motion picture would be incredibly risky as a Star Trek movie. Very had to bring in any kind of nostalgia/loyalty factor.
 
A whole new crew, plus new cast, plus new ship, plus new decade for a major motion picture would be incredibly risky as a Star Trek movie. Very had to bring in any kind of nostalgia/loyalty factor.


Which is why I don't get all the "Why?".
Even with the popularity of TNG, anyone in the general public is going to
hear "Star Trek" and think; Kirk, Spock, Enterprise.
That's what they'll recognize no matter how young the actors, how well lit
the bridge is, or how smoothly designed the Enterprise is.
And that's what Paramount needs/wants is people to recognize it, yet this
time it seem "cool" and draw in more than just the Trekligious Extremists of
internet message boards.
 
Didn't Red Dwarf end up doing that story?
did they? i'm not aware if they did. maybe.
With the first episode of Series 7, looks like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikka_to_Ride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir9vAnQW6I8 (Part 1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InmcSuVYrY (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmS2SnEXc8 (3)

wasnt that a bit "heavy" for a comedy like red dwarf? we are talking about the same story , right? enterprise goes back in time, somehow they prevent kennedy from being assainated and the timeline channges!hey, timeline change! that sounds familier. but i digress. then to right things ,spock phasers kennedy. thats the one , right?
 
Didn't Red Dwarf end up doing that story?
did they? i'm not aware if they did. maybe.
With the first episode of Series 7, looks like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikka_to_Ride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir9vAnQW6I8 (Part 1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InmcSuVYrY (2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmS2SnEXc8 (3)

i just checked episode guide. your 100% right . wow. seems out of character for that show. kinda hard to see how they could work the kennedy assasination into a comedy show. kinda a touchy subject if you know what i mean.i think the whole premise would have made an excellant trek film though.
 
Also keep in mind that if GR was still alive and well today, he would have to been alive and healthy during the 1990s as well. DS9 and Voyager would have turned out differently assuming they still existed. Going into the late 90s and early 2000s with September 11th (It's safe to assume it would have happened anyway), He would have changed his style and all with the experiences and influence he would have had in the past 17 years. Enterprise would have never happened. Some of the latter movies would have turned out very differently. We might be in midst of a series 7 run, or still hoping for a fourth Trek series.
 
Also keep in mind that if GR was still alive and well today, he would have to been alive and healthy during the 1990s as well. DS9 and Voyager would have turned out differently assuming they still existed. Going into the late 90s and early 2000s with September 11th (It's safe to assume it would have happened anyway), He would have changed his style and all with the experiences and influence he would have had in the past 17 years. Enterprise would have never happened. Some of the latter movies would have turned out very differently. We might be in midst of a series 7 run, or still hoping for a fourth Trek series.
Which is, funnily enough, exactly what happened in at least one reality - according to the most current and awesome scientific theory™.
 
Here's one for you:

If his name is going to be on it, what would Gene Roddenberry like to see in STII?

A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.
 
A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.

We really need a "barf" smiley. :lol:
 
I think he would've gotten tired of Star Trek again after TNG and gone on to produce his undewater show, Magna I or Genesis II...
 
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I cannot think he would necessarily want to see a retread of his original work...
All works of fiction are retreads. GR himself could even be accused of ripping off his own work.

Sharr
 
Here's one for you:

If his name is going to be on it, what would Gene Roddenberry like to see in STII?

A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.


Its more like the EU with backbone...

Sharr
 
A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.

We really need a "barf" smiley. :lol:

It would be interesting to see how Roddenberry would represent those ideals which are obvious in TOS, to the 'me' generation, who think that morality, indeed anything else than selfishness, is ridiculous or offensive.
 
A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.

We really need a "barf" smiley. :lol:

It would be interesting to see how Roddenberry would represent those ideals which are obvious in TOS, to the 'me' generation, who think that morality, indeed anything else than selfishness, is ridiculous or offensive.

He could talk about them in an episode call the "The Strawman" or maybe "when did Kirk stop beating his wife?"
 
A squad of morally, intellectually and spiritually perfect Americans, utterly devoid of internal conflict, on an endless trek through the universe on a mission to bring enlightenment to an otherwise barbaric universe whose inhabitants secretly admire humans anyway.

We really need a "barf" smiley. :lol:

It would be interesting to see how Roddenberry would represent those ideals which are obvious in TOS, to the 'me' generation, who think that morality, indeed anything else than selfishness, is ridiculous or offensive.

I think you just answered your own question.

To that point, he would probably end up churning out a screenplay that introduces a totally new alien race--the Taladasians, let's say--which is actually a vaguely humanoid monoculture (blonde caucasians with F-shaped eyebrows) whose entire population is about to go extinct because of their unanimous and fanatical belief in some form of cosmic social darwinism... and only the crew of the Enterprise can show them the error of their ways.:shifty:
 
It would be interesting to see how Roddenberry would represent those ideals which are obvious in TOS, to the 'me' generation, who think that morality, indeed anything else than selfishness, is ridiculous or offensive.

Dude, the Baby Boom generation that made "Star Trek" popular - and I am one of them - epitomizes self-absorption, self-involvement and selfishness in general. No later cohort comes close.

You may be confused because young people have so little patience for listening to Boomers hypocritically lecture about civic virtue and morality and altruism.
 
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