What would Roddenberry want in XI??

[Sean Aaron]

I cannot think he would necessarily want to see a retread of his original work when you could easily have done something new with the property along the same lines with different characters.

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Roddenberry's nature is at the heart of this thread. It can't be romanticized enough unless you mean it could never be duplicated or reached, then I agree. His writing was powerful, deep, thought provoking, altruistic and compassionate but his genius was in encompassing it all and perfecting and glorifying it.

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......You're Stephen Colbert, aren't you?

Damn, I thought I was Stephen Colbert.

 

[EnderAKH]

Roddenberry's nature is at the heart of this thread. It can't be romanticized enough unless you mean it could never be duplicated or reached, then I agree. His writing was powerful, deep, thought provoking, altruistic and compassionate but his genius was in encompassing it all and perfecting and glorifying it.

...

......You're Stephen Colbert, aren't you?

Damn, I thought I was Stephen Colbert.

Gene Roddenberry... Great Star Trek producer, or the GREATEST Star Trek producer?

 

[datagal]

He was an ex-cop who had a drinking problem and a zillion ideas for TV shows, only one of which ever got made. I love trek as much as the next guy, but let's not over-romanticize Roddenberry's nature here.

Roddenberry's nature is at the heart of this thread. It can't be romanticized enough unless you mean it could never be duplicated or reached, then I agree. His writing was powerful, deep, thought provoking, altruistic and compassionate but his genius was in encompassing it all and perfecting and glorifying it.

Wow.

I just like Star Trek because it's good. I never thought too much about Roddenberry as anything but the person who created Star Trek.

 

[number6]

I cannot think he would necessarily want to see a retread of his original work when you could easily have done something new with the property along the same lines with different characters.

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

No. GR often mused in interviews how it would be down the road if/when someone else decided to recreate those characters.

He thought the fans would probably like it better than that "old Roddenberry show."

He would be pleased that someone was still doing Star Trek. He had said so in interviews prior to his death. Look it up.

I really wish people would stop imposing their own personal feelings on what they think GR would do. If they actually did a little research, they would discover how increadibly wrong they are.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Roddenberry's nature is at the heart of this thread. It can't be romanticized enough unless you mean it could never be duplicated or reached, then I agree. His writing was powerful, deep, thought provoking, altruistic and compassionate but his genius was in encompassing it all and perfecting and glorifying it.

To each his own, I suppose. I personally feel that the eleven episodes of TOS for which he get story credit and the four episodes for which he gets full writing credit are among my least favorite (except for The Menagerie, which is pretty good).

 

[number6]

Roddenberry's nature is at the heart of this thread. It can't be romanticized enough unless you mean it could never be duplicated or reached, then I agree. His writing was powerful, deep, thought provoking, altruistic and compassionate but his genius was in encompassing it all and perfecting and glorifying it.

To each his own, I suppose. I personally feel that the eleven episodes of TOS for which he get story credit and the four episodes for which he gets full writing credit are among my least favorite (except for The Menagerie, which is pretty good).

GR's writing skills can be summed up in three short words: Eed Pleb Neesta!

 

[Devon]

I cannot think he would necessarily want to see a retread of his original work when you could easily have done something new with the property along the same lines with different characters.

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

I can't, especially when he said this:

"Even if Nimoy never plays Spock again, I think it would be wonderful years from now to see Star Trek come back with an equally talented new cast playing Spock and Kirk and Bones and Scotty and all the rest as they say tomorrow’s things to tomorrow’s generations…"

http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/more-from-roddenberry-on-treks-future-after-him-recasting/

 

[xortex]

Return of the Archons was my favorite cause of its metaphysics. Who didn't like savage curtain, bread and circuses and omega glory? Got to love those poetic titles at least.

 

[number6]

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

I can't, especially when he said this:

"Even if Nimoy never plays Spock again, I think it would be wonderful years from now to see Star Trek come back with an equally talented new cast playing Spock and Kirk and Bones and Scotty and all the rest as they say tomorrow’s things to tomorrow’s generations…"

http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/more-from-roddenberry-on-treks-future-after-him-recasting/

Thank you for finding that quote. I was being a lazy bugger.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Return of the Archons was my favorite cause of its metaphysics. Who didn't like savage curtain, bread and circuses and omega glory? Got to love those poetic titles at least.

At least three of those are among the lamest TOS episodes ever, and the fourth wasn't so hot either.

 

[xortex]

Return of the Archons was my favorite cause of its metaphysics. Who didn't like savage curtain, bread and circuses and omega glory? Got to love those poetic titles at least.

At least three of those are among the lamest TOS episodes ever, and the fourth wasn't so hot either.

You will be absorbed.. I mean assimilated.

 

[number6]

You will be absorbed.. I mean assimilated.

That was Maurice Hurley.

 

[xortex]

You will be absorbed.. I mean assimilated.

That was Maurice Hurley.

Shhh, Landru will hear you. I don't even think Roddenberry knew what he did until after he did it. Somehow, someway he's responsible for a miracle of rare design. I hope J.J. is too. It all looks very good to me so far.

 

[Cheapjack]

Going back to my original post, I asked; 'What would Roddenberry want in ST11?'

I think he would be fairly satisfied with a picture of decent,controlled,professional human beings who at least there in 300 years time.and haven't killed each other off. That would give him some pleasure. But, I think he would like a message too, if that wouldn't be too much. It was part of the original mission statement for ST and all ST to date has had one, to a greater or lesser degree.

I would also add that I have read that Roddenberry was regarded as a bit of a 'pain in the ass' in this respect by studio executives!

 

[Sean Aaron]

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

I can't, especially when he said this:

"Even if Nimoy never plays Spock again, I think it would be wonderful years from now to see Star Trek come back with an equally talented new cast playing Spock and Kirk and Bones and Scotty and all the rest as they say tomorrow’s things to tomorrow’s generations…"

http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/more-from-roddenberry-on-treks-future-after-him-recasting/

Damn, I thought I had something there. Denied again!

 

[trekkerguy]

Regarding the last paragraph: Just my thoughts exactly.

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

I can't, especially when he said this:

"Even if Nimoy never plays Spock again, I think it would be wonderful years from now to see Star Trek come back with an equally talented new cast playing Spock and Kirk and Bones and Scotty and all the rest as they say tomorrow’s things to tomorrow’s generations…"


http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/more-from-roddenberry-on-treks-future-after-him-recasting/

And all this fuss... one big "lol" at fandom.

 

[JoeZhang]

I would also add that I have read that Roddenberry was regarded as a bit of a 'pain in the ass' in this respect by studio executives!

He was known as a 'pain in the ass' by many, generally writers and other people who he tried to fliddle and do out of money. Really the big message of Star Trek was "Gene will screw you if he gets the chance".

 

[M'Sharak]

I think we can all agree that my statement is accurate, no?

I can't, especially when he said this:

"Even if Nimoy never plays Spock again, I think it would be wonderful years from now to see Star Trek come back with an equally talented new cast playing Spock and Kirk and Bones and Scotty and all the rest as they say tomorrow’s things to tomorrow’s generations…"


http://trekmovie.com/2008/03/06/more-from-roddenberry-on-treks-future-after-him-recasting/

As an aside, there's another quote to be found in that item which I found interesting:

Roddenberry on if he would have done Star Trek differently
from 1988 Interview, “The Star Trek Interview Book” by Allan Asherman.

" …there are literally hundreds of things I would have done differently with the luxury of hindsight, but I’m quite pleased, given the time, the place, the problems we faced, our own lack of knowledge at that time, because we’ve grown since then, that we did as well as you can reasonably expect. We made lots of mistakes, but obviously we did enough things right that it worked despite the mistakes."
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It puts the notion of strict canon in a slightly different perspective, perhaps.

 

[xortex]

In science fiction, concept is king. It's what floats the boat. Time travel is not a concept it is a device. TOS was plot driven with a high degree of personal involvement.