What would New Human culture have become like, if the producers kept the concept from the TMP novel?

[Arpy]

Or really interesting. They’re all about understanding things and living their best lives. If they could dramatize that perspective for us, it might be a lot of fun. Their failings and tragedies would be as interesting to see as anyone’s too.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Or really interesting. They’re all about understanding things and living their best lives. If they could dramatize that perspective for us, it might be a lot of fun. Their failings and tragedies would be as interesting to see as anyone’s too.

You and I have extremely different definitions of the word "interesting." I personally don't care to ever see stuff like S1 TNG characters talking about how superior they are to the people of the 20th century ever again.

 

[Arpy]

You and I have extremely different definitions of the word "interesting." I personally don't care to ever see stuff like S1 TNG characters talking about how superior they are to the people of the 20th century ever again.

I dunno. I think we’re far too full of ourselves and maybe could do with the occasional reminder that we could do better. That said, that’s not the part of the New Humans that interest me as much as everything else I mentioned.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

"Far too full of themselves" is the perfect description of the S1 TNG characters, IMO. I'd rather they'd shown us the characters being better than us, instead of just talking about it.

 

[Arpy]

"Far too full of themselves" is the perfect description of the S1 TNG characters, IMO. I'd rather they'd shown us the characters being better than us, instead of just talking about it.

Well, they did rather spectacularly when they showed Riker giving up godhood in “Hide and Q.” Today the message seems to be again that you’d have to be a fool not to grab at whatever power you can get away with — it means you’re “smart.”

It’s been a while since I saw “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” but were the two effected by crossing the Galactic Barrier able to will themselves back to their senses? My recollection was that the effect and the power corrupted them and only upon having their power weakened did they get some perspective on what they’d become.

I get what you’re getting at, and it’s been mentioned that they were still finding their footing in the first two seasons (more than any subsequent series ever needed to, thanks to TNG), but there’s also some really different stuff there that’s interesting to me.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

It’s been a while since I saw “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” but were the two effected by crossing the Galactic Barrier able to will themselves back to their senses? My recollection was that the effect and the power corrupted them and only upon having their power weakened did they get some perspective on what they’d become.

Yeah, that was more or less what happened. Gary Mitchell's eyes briefly goes back to normal when he runs into a forcefield in his cell on Delta Vega, and he just gets out one word - "Jim" - before the silver eyes return. He says it in a tone almost like he's apologizing for what he's done and what he's about to do.

Elizabeth Dehner comes to her senses and opposes Gary when Kirk gets through to her because she wasn't as far gone as Gary yet. I don't think her eyes went back to normal, though.

it’s been mentioned that they were still finding their footing in the first two seasons (more than any subsequent series ever needed to, thanks to TNG), but there’s also some really different stuff there that’s interesting to me.

Yeah, same here. Some of the early TNG episodes still have a residual TOS vibe to them, and I find that very interesting to see with a different cast.