Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Cyanide Muffin, Jul 21, 2018.
Or was that the Defiant on DS9?
No, Q sent them back to the Big Bang in the same episode.
No, it was Voyager. I remember Kim commenting that they were bombarded by protons (You have to be incredibly small to see protons coming at you!!!) It's Q that reduced them to that size.
Plotholes are part of the script
Without it the only plausible explanation is that Nero spent the 25 years in stasis somewhere because I can't picture that asshole remaining quiet and not causing any trouble for that long!
We have to assume Nero turned everything off and locked it down, So the Klingon would be able to physically examine everything but couldn't turn anything on, unable to hack through 24th century security measures. Eventually they would lose interest. The real question is why it was brought into orbit of Rura Penthe in the first place. Surely the Klingons would have towed it to an R&D outpost. Although, since the scenes are deleted, maybe it was too big for them to tow, and Nero hijacked a different ship and went back to the Narada which was still drifting in the same area of space.
Ah, I remember the DS9 episode where Defiant was shrunk. Forgot about that bit from Voyager.
Or maybe he cloaked it with futuristic cloaking technology that made it impossible for a Klingon ship to detect it.
"humans are the bad nasty villains" - it's definitely been overused and there's nothing remotely clever about the concept anymore.
As yet, no TV show has done a very special time travel episode - only to turn the situation on its head and there is no reset button or return to normality. Or "First Contact" where they don't address the issue whatsoever (just a stupid one-liner joke about what the future awaits and then they re-open the Borg vortex despite no Borg technology or anything being in operational condition, proof that Trek rot set in long before Voyager got erroneously scapegoated for it all), it's just a happy ending. No, they go all the way and show a changed universe. The closest so far is, dare I say it, "Star Trek 2009". And even then all they did in the new universe was play loose and shallow with stereotyped character attributes with no actual depth but they wrote in scenes from actual shows as part of the movie so it's obviously as brilliant as the 1995 Brady Bunch movie that did the same shtick, only not as loose or shallow...
I have yet to see a Time travel movie that really deals with the issues. So far it's simplistic at best and more often than not cartoonishly simplistic.
Didn't EUREKA do something like that? Where they seriously changed the status quo (oops!) and then stuck with the altered timeline.
They did. And it was all Gaius Baltar's fault.
I miss Eureka
The alternate time line episode where no one makes it out alive. They all meet some demise at the conclusion of the episode
Voyager- Year of hell
Stargate SG-1 “2001”
No writer has found a solution to end the episode differently
There was one where a runabout was shrunk ("One Little Ship"), but I don't remember the Defiant being shrunk.
Right! That's the one I was remembering. Just assumed it was the Defiant since it was DS9 . . ...
Actually, I think they did it more than once.
I thought TNG was especially egregious with that one, every time there was an "alternate timeline" everyone dies!
Luckily they got alt Tasha Yar out
Separate names with a comma.