• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

What things DELIGHTED you the most on ENT?

WHAT DELIGHTED YOU?


  • Total voters
    46

JiNX-01

Admiral
Admiral
OK, here's my counterpart to the "most annoying" poll. I'm giving you multiple options for responses and the poll will be public, so I ask that you elaborate on each of your votes. Feel free to use pictures to illustrate (please limit them to 300 x 200 to make it easier on our dial-up friends -- I know the board rule is different, but I would like the pictures to supplement your posts, not overwhelm them :)).

It's going to take a bit of time to get the poll together, so it should be up in a few minutes.
 
What I found I like the most was breathing new life in to some of the old school elements that had not been touch on since TOS; case in point tellerites, andoians, thoians and finally providing some 'logic' on why the 22 c. vulcans were such SOB's.
Overall the xindi arc was positive.

-The Shatinator
 
Twilight! I seriously didn't think the writers had an episode that good in them, but there it was. I know it doesn't necessarily all make sense, but I enjoyed it a huge amount. Thumbs up to Mike Sussman.

Oh, and Andreas Katsulas's guest appearance in Cogenitor.
 
If I had to pick only one, I'd say the Xindi arc, but I also like the Federation building in S4, character development, use of already introduced alien races and the relatively contemporary looking sets and uniforms.
 
Other.

The fact that it was a Star Trek show. There should be more of those. Even the worst Star Trek series is better than anything else on TV.
 
If I had to pick only one, I'd say the Xindi arc, but I also like the Federation building in S4, character development, use of already introduced alien races and the relatively contemporary looking sets and uniforms.
You don't have to pick only one here. I set up multiple vote options.
 
If I had to pick only one, I'd say the Xindi arc, but I also like the Federation building in S4, character development, use of already introduced alien races and the relatively contemporary looking sets and uniforms.
You don't have to pick only one here. I set up multiple vote options.
I knew that. I simply meant that the Xindi arc was the thing I loved the most in ENT.
 
I agree. The Xindi mission really was pretty awesome. I do kind of wish there had been a Romulan connection (but then we wouldn't have had the weirdness of the Expanse since the Romulans would have had no motive -- or even the capacity -- for building the spheres).
 
I love this thread, JiNX. :adore:

Aaaaaaand I voted for everything. :lol: Sure, maybe there were elements that didn't delight me 100% of the time (Archer needed more consistency, Travis had untapped potential, some goofball plots here and there, etc) but I found delight in each of these categories. There were storylines and performances that blew me away. I loved the look and feel of the show, and the relationships between the characters.

Special shoutout to Shran and Soval, and the attention paid to their characters, esp. in Season 4. And the idea of pre-TOS Vulcans who still had some growing to do.

For my "other" -- the music. "Similitude," "Home," and "Observer Effect" were especially memorable.
 
I enjoyed the fact we got to see the beginning of Starfleet's exploration and relations between human and Vulcans. that these Vulcans were totally different from Tos Vulcans everyone was Familiar with. I also like Connor& Jolene's characters Trip& T'pol.Also the supporting Enterprise cast.Also Admiral Max Forrest, Soval,Shran and Erika Hernandez.I also liked shows like Breaking the Ice,The Forgotten,Observer effect, demons and Terra Prime. i really liked the xindi arc in season 3.
 
Connor, Recurring Characters, and Story Lines.

Connor Trinneer really was the stand out actor in the series. Bakula and Blalock were painful at times and the supporting cast never really got enough time to shine. It may be some time before Trinneer gets another starring role in something, but I enjoy his acting and looking forward to it.

ENT comes in second to DS9 for recurring characters. The loss of Vaughn Armstrong's Forrest was similar to Dr. Fraiser's death on SG1 when it comes to recurring character's deaths. Gary Graham and Jeffrey Combs always put in good performances and even though his storyline was dreadful, John Fleck was always entertaining as Silik.

The Xindi storyline was created to boost ratings and it kept enough suspense going, even as you know Earth was not going to be destroyed. The writing was smart enough to make us care about the characters and their peril. Season 4, though described by most as a fan wank, did well with the short episode arcs and did some great storytelling.
 
The consistency of how good the episodes are, despite major flaws like the convoluted temporal cold war arc. Even with that going on, the episodes managed to still be quite engaging. I was also delighted with how great the show ended up being after having dismissed it for so long due to several misguided misconceptions.

The Xindi

Trip Tucker

Shran

T'Pol
 
Last edited:
Story lines, Production values, Set design and Connor. I would also add, music.

I really enjoyed it looking so good! Trek deserves that. Story lines, they have really stayed with me and drawn me back for multiple viewings, especially of seasons 3 and 4. There was a lot of new, not retread at all story lines in ENT. I wish the relaunch was as good as the show.

UGH I didn't see the recurring characters option. Well of course I must add that too. Besides the wonderful Shran ENT gave me my favorite ever Vulcan..

<----
 
Special shoutout to Shran

Why thank you. :alienblush: ;)


For me it was Jolene, the recurring characters, and the production values.

Jolene - I just don't get what so many people have against her. Is it that she hasn't done so well in other productions and shows? If that's the case, I don't get the hate, because she nailed the role of T'Pol perfectly, IMO. I think it's more that she played the role of a Vulcan very differently than Nimoy or Tim Russ played it. People expected her to be just like them and when she wasn't they got upset. From where I'm sitting, that's not a valid criticism on her performance. She played the role she was given and played it wonderfully.

Recurring characters - ENT is second only to DS9 in this regard. How could you go wrong with Weyoun himself on the show. :) Soval, Forrest, and the MACOs were also excellent.

Production Values - This was best looking show in the franchise. It really did improve the look of the show when they started using hi-definition cameras.

I'll also say something about the handling of canon. ENT had it's canon and continuity flaws, no doubt, but they were no more massive than the flaws in TOS, TNG, DS9, or VOY. What ENT had a lot of distortion with was previously established FANON, not CANON. It didn't bother me one bit if the showed stepped on the toes of fan theories or things from the non-canonical novels.
 
I voted for Acting, character development, production values, Jolene, recurring cast, and other; I also voted for supporting regular cast by mistake, but it's not such a bad mistake since Billingsley was great, and Keating was very good, too. But in many cases I need to qualify this with "some of".

e.g.:
Character development - for some of the characters (Archer, T'Pol, Trip), it was as good as on any other show (in terms of actual character growth, second only to DS9); others were short-shifted.
Production values - I should qualify this with "season 3 production values". They were average in seasons 1 and 2, compared to other shows of the 2000s. But in season 3, they obviously re-vamped the show, and the visuals were just amazing (especially in the scenes of Expanse anomalies; battle scenes were also great).

I really couldn't vote for Storylines, because while I really enjoyed some of them (the Vulcan/Andorian/Tellarite relations and the building of the future Federation, the Xindi arc, the Vulcan trilogy, the Romulan involvement, Terra Prime, the Mirror Universe two-parter), many others (particularly many of the standalones, with exceptions such as "Cogenitor") were just lame, dull, derivative drivel that clogged the first couple of seasons, and made ENT look like a safe, unoriginal and inferior retread of earlier Treks. Storylines were really the biggest problem of ENT. But when they got good, the show got good.

Though Connor was really good, and Scott was quite good once he got a handle on Archer, I voted for Jolene because I really enjoyed her performance and T'Pol is my favorite character on the show.
Recurring cast: Soval, Forrest, Shran, Degra, Cutler...
I liked the acting on the show because it was more realistic, low-key and made the characters look down-to-earth, which was a refreshing change - even though I enjoy the larger than life, flamboyant characters of other show, this was one of the things that set ENT apart.
Which brings me to the "other" department.
I really liked that the characters were more similar to 20th/21st century people, more like people you could meet in real life. I liked the 'prequel' feel of having film nights instead of holodeck, or being less 'enlightened', or obviously not having that much experience with space travel.
The single things that most delighted me were:
- the serious way that every redshirt death was treated with
- the amazing visuals in season 3, with the Expanse anomalies being shown in all their glory (in VOY, for instance, anomalies were usually shown by having people talk about it) and having it also matter for the story, unlike being a tired all device as they were on VOY
- the battle scenes in "Azati Prime/Damage", with audacity of showing people being sucked into the space from the wrecked ship;
- having the ship really wrecked and having the consequences felt in the next episode;
- the audacity of having a main character who is, practically, drug-addicted, without getting all judgmental about it
- the alternate opening credits for "In A Mirror, Darkly". Just awesome.
- having a MU story set 100% in the MU, and without a 'happy ending'
 
Great thread by the way. I want to thank you Jinx for coming up with the positive version. Sometimes it is easy to be one sided on a particular thing (like a certain Trek series).

So thank you.


Well, I voted for...

1. Story Lines

Although the vast majority of the story lines were not really original and the Temporal Cold War was never properly explained. And the formation of the Federation didn't get it's fair chance from day one: I still think the story line premise for the Xindi (Dominion War) Arc was executed well over all. I also liked the direction they were headed in Season 4 (all be it: I wasn't happy with certain things though still).

2. Uniforms

I loved the uniforms from day one. I even love the cool shiny jackets they wore on special occasions, too. The pockets, the patch on the arm. Very fitting and cool!

3. Set Design

The set design was cool in the fact that it tried to be different. The only thing I would have liked better is if there was no TNG - DS9 - VOY displays on Enterprise or any other common alien ships yet. However, I suspect that was a Berman / Braga choice then it was Zimmermans. But overall I liked the submarine look of the ship. And I really liked how they had to push buttons and pull handles to open doors and what not.

4. Production Values

The production value was professional. Camera quality, shots, and the special effects were all top notch. I mean, I couldn't tell the difference when they switched over to the all digital camera (instead of film) during the start of that one season. Which says a lot about the production team and their abilities.

5. Other - For Leaving The Prequel Concept of this Particular Series a Mystery:

Although, Enterprise has some series problems in my opinion, I am extremely happy that they left the mystery of the series open enough so that it could be interpreted as an altered time line. To me, it helps to make sense of what has happened in the grande scheme of the Trek-verse.
 
I have to agree with HR here, I would vote for "All the Above"!

There was a lot to love about this series. I loved the acting, the entire cast, 22nd Century Technology, most of the story lines, the set designs, the production values (best of any of the Treks) and even the Uniforms.

But I voted "Other" and you can guess what that was! :lol:
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top