Also, after Kirk/Lester (or is it Lester/Kirk?) convinces Spock via mind-meld that he is who he says he is, or she is...
...Spock hurries out of the medical ward (or was it the brig?) holding Kirk/Lester's hand....Hmm....
What the most controversal scene on TOS?
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Also, after Kirk/Lester (or is it Lester/Kirk?) convinces Spock via mind-meld that he is who he says he is, or she is...
...Spock hurries out of the medical ward (or was it the brig?) holding Kirk/Lester's hand....Hmm....
A pretty safe bet, there.
By far the most controversial moment was the Kirk/Uhura kiss in "Plato's Stepchildren."
I think much more than the kiss itself, I found all the close-ups on Parmen and Philana getting off on all the action veeeeeeerrry interesting. definitely some subtext slipped in there.
She is actually bi-racial and of French extraction -- many "Asian" actors in Hollywood are of mixed race. We have to remember that politics drives a lot of what gets discussed as "cultural" issues, and race in the United States has almost always been defined as a black/white issue.Bi-racial unions were pretty controversial in the 60's.
Interestingly, no one had a problem with Kirk kissing Elaan, portrayed by France Nuyen....an Asian-American woman.
Hence, by-passing that aforementioned kiss and focusing on the Kirk/Uhura kiss, claiming it was television's first interracial kiss....
Bullshi...
Even if there was a high degree of anger or praise for the scene with Kirk and Elaan, it would easily be overshadowed.
In the 60s, Asian chicks were exotic. Black chicks were taboo.
Old folks would cry "What bout the children?!" assuming a mixed-race child would be an outcast and subject to the torment such people have endured in the dark ages.
If I ever hear that lame question again, I'll just hold up a picture of Mariah Carey and say "thank god for them!"
Old folks would cry "What bout the children?!" assuming a mixed-race child would be an outcast and subject to the torment such people have endured in the dark ages.
If I ever hear that lame question again, I'll just hold up a picture of Mariah Carey and say "thank god for them!"
This isn't controversial in the way most have responded here, but I was always confused about the scene in Spectre Of The Gun when they disappeared from the planet and immediately McCoy was examining Checkov. I never understood if he was never with them in the first place or whether he was the only one who saw the girlfriend and the others didn't or ?? Quite confusing to me.
Actually, Asian chicks are still considered 'exotic'....and always have been. Black chicks and black dudes were considered taboo in the 60s...and some cases today.
With Will Smith's 'Hitch'...it was thought that two black leads would drive audiences away, and a white actress opposite Smith will cause controversy. (So, they cast Latina, Eva Mendes).
Interestingly, in the same film there is a white male going after an Asian female portrayed by Navia Nguyen....(Of course, you don't hear anything about that).
She is actually bi-racial and of French extraction -- many "Asian" actors in Hollywood are of mixed race. We have to remember that politics drives a lot of what gets discussed as "cultural" issues, and race in the United States has almost always been defined as a black/white issue.Bi-racial unions were pretty controversial in the 60's.
Interestingly, no one had a problem with Kirk kissing Elaan, portrayed by France Nuyen....an Asian-American woman.
Hence, by-passing that aforementioned kiss and focusing on the Kirk/Uhura kiss, claiming it was television's first interracial kiss....
Bullshi...
Even if there was a high degree of anger or praise for the scene with Kirk and Elaan, it would easily be overshadowed.
I never knew she was bi-racial; her Asian features--and dark-skin--are pretty prominent. (Not too mention her last name, which I assume was changed from 'Nguyen' since people wouldn't know how to pronounce it).
I do agree: In the US (and in some parts of the world) racial issues are usually defined in black and white....
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Skrew the FCC with a phillips, says I.
The FCC outta stick to broadcast operation and signal standards....NOT decentcy standards. They already destroyed terestrial radio.
Most controversial.....hmmmm......gimme some time to go over that.
The US President (at the time) went on record saying that he was in favor of abortions in cases like these.
I think this!
Was Gene Rodenberry trying to play the race card?
What did Roddenberry have to do w/ this episode? Did he greenlight the script prior to season 3, when he was still actively involved in the show?
Doug
i would like for people to stop talking about the interracial kiss so much, and focus in how bad the episode 'plato's children' really was. my goodness, what a suckfest!
Trust me on this - the episode doesn't lack for hatred by all persons of good taste.
In what way?
What message would that be?
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