What should the next Superman movie be?

[Jetfire]

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The whole no tights, no flights thing is Smallville's greatest error...atleast for season 8. I think Superman Returns got it right in many ways...just need to lose the kid, add 2 more Superman villains(Metallo & Atomic Skull) and lose Kate Bosworth...for Kate Beckinsale.

JF

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I would suggest Darkseid. He has an army, he has a motivation, he's a complex character, and he's all but invincible.

No origin story, of course. That's get in the way. It starts with Superman kicking butt and doesn't slow down.

On the relationship angle, Supes is more open and and honest with those in his life. Lois knows his identity and is living with him, providing him with emotional support in addition to kicking butt in her own right. She is never captured and is not a damsal in distress. There will be no rescue missions. There wil be no hostages. Superbaby can be ignored or included, depending on the direction they want to go. But he shouldn't be important to the plot. He's a kid and he's strong, but he can't do much against parademons, mostly because he's just a kid who happens to be strong. He doesn't develop any other powers.

Frame the conflict between Darkseid and Supes within a higher moral conflict of control vs freedom, tyrany vs chaos, safety vs risk, and efficiency vs compassion, with Superman seriously questening how far he should go to save lives and if his unwillingness to step outside of his moral comfort zone makes him just as guilty as the countless criminals that he doesn't stop, precipitated by a disasterous suicide bombing that he could have stoped with lethal if he were willing to use lethal force against the bomber. Not angsty, of course. Superman and angst don't mesh, but just trying to feel out the limits of his moral obligations to the people of the world.

Perhaps that would be a way to incorporate Jason into the story, kinda getting to a metaphor about the stress that a father feels toward creating a better world for his child. It's not cutesy. Rather, the existence of Jason gives Superman a greater stake in the world.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Matthew Vaughan should direct the next Superman movie, a reboot.

 

[hyzmarca]

I like your ideas, but I'm unsure about using Darkseid. I'm not sure how well he would work, at least for a reintroduction.

I think Brainiac would be an excellent choice, and would also allow subtle reflection on the Superman origins if he is Kryptonian as has been done of late.

My reasoning behind Darkseid is that he's menacing and alien in appearance but ultimately human in mind and goal. His army provides a constant external threat to the people of Earth and gives the various military forces something to do so it doesn't look like they're just sitting on their butts waiting fro superman to save them. And, most importantly he's powerful enough to justify some cool fight scenes.

And by cool fight scenes, I mean supes rushing him at superspeed, uppercutting him with such force that he's literally knocked into orbit, supes flying after him, grabbing him, and throwing him to the ground (aiming for an uninhabited desert) and heat visioning him constantly as he falls. And then, when the dust clears, there's Darkseid standing in the middle of a giant crater, smiling. "Is that the best you've got?"

Brainiac isn't a powerhouse; he's a tech villain. It is fairly difficult to remain true to the character and justify a scene where he and Superman beat on each other using decomissioned WWII battleships as clubs. But there is something to be said for the coolness of a scene where two very strong guys just repeatedly hit each other with battleships.

 

[QuasarVM]

I like your ideas, but I'm unsure about using Darkseid. I'm not sure how well he would work, at least for a reintroduction.

I think Brainiac would be an excellent choice, and would also allow subtle reflection on the Superman origins if he is Kryptonian as has been done of late.

My reasoning behind Darkseid is that he's menacing and alien in appearance but ultimately human in mind and goal. His army provides a constant external threat to the people of Earth and gives the various military forces something to do so it doesn't look like they're just sitting on their butts waiting fro superman to save them. And, most importantly he's powerful enough to justify some cool fight scenes.

And by cool fight scenes, I mean supes rushing him at superspeed, uppercutting him with such force that he's literally knocked into orbit, supes flying after him, grabbing him, and throwing him to the ground (aiming for an uninhabited desert) and heat visioning him constantly as he falls. And then, when the dust clears, there's Darkseid standing in the middle of a giant crater, smiling. "Is that the best you've got?"

Brainiac isn't a powerhouse; he's a tech villain. It is fairly difficult to remain true to the character and justify a scene where he and Superman beat on each other using decomissioned WWII battleships as clubs. But there is something to be said for the coolness of a scene where two very strong guys just repeatedly hit each other with battleships.

Man, I LOVE that fight scene you described between Darkseid and Supes!

THAT I would pay good money to see!

However, my caveat is that they DO NOT change the general look of Darkseid.

I hated what they did with Galactus in Rise of the Silver Surfer...what a stupid change and a waste!