What pet peeves do you have about trek books?

[JarodRussell]

^Well, that's an in-joke that works in-universe, because it's entirely possible that someone could've created a holosuite program based on a classic 20th-century motion picture. It's no different from Data playing Sherlock Holmes on the holodeck.

Or somebody in the Peter David novels playing with the Marvel Universe characters on the holodeck.

Didn't Michael Jan Friedman write the Star Trek / X-Men crossover novel?

 

[Greg Cox]

Regarding in-jokes, I think it depends a bit on where they occur. I wouldn't stick one into a heart-rending, emotional death scene, but if Worf and Geordi are just exchanging some light banter in Ten-Forward . . . .

 

[terpette]

My only peeves are (1) Pocket doesn't publish enough Trek books and (2) I've never had the pleasure of being turned into a character.

Oh, and I want a Star Trek day planner. I don't need another wall calendar. Who handles those?

Karen

 

[chelly]

I am with Karen on the fact that they don't publish enough trek.

 

[JD]

^Well, that's an in-joke that works in-universe, because it's entirely possible that someone could've created a holosuite program based on a classic 20th-century motion picture. It's no different from Data playing Sherlock Holmes on the holodeck.

^Well, that's an in-joke that works in-universe, because it's entirely possible that someone could've created a holosuite program based on a classic 20th-century motion picture. It's no different from Data playing Sherlock Holmes on the holodeck.

Or somebody in the Peter David novels playing with the Marvel Universe characters on the holodeck.

Or Huilan.

 

[Christopher]

^Uhh, that doesn't fit the analogy at all, because Huilan is not a fictional character in-universe. We're talking about cultural references that are also cultural references within the Trek universe, that can be accounted for by the characters recreating something they consider a work of fiction just as much as we do.

 

[JD]

Ah, my bad.

 

[Sci]

I wouldn't mind the loss of the in-jokes. I know that many people enjoy them but to me, at least the ones that I see, they're like a character on a TV show winking at the camera. It breaks the fourth wall.

As a big fan of intertextuality and metafiction, I can't say I mind breaks in the fourth wall.

 

[Myasishchev]

^Grant Morrison's Star Trek.

 

[Christopher]

^Grant Morrison's Star Trek.

Now, that could be interesting.

 

[Myasishchev]

That's what people say, but I'm not convinced it would be all that good. I've got great respect for a lot of Morrison's work (namely Invisibles and particularly The Filth) but even in the good Morrison comics, a great deal of time is spent just idea-vomiting. I'm trying to remember if he ever developed an actual character that wasn't The Filth's Greg Feely/Ned Slade. I mean, King Mob and Lord Fanny and Jack Frost were cool and all, but I wouldn't call them three-dimensional (let alone four-dimensional, ha ha).

I'd expect a Morrison Trek tale to read like a much cleverer, more manic Braga script.

Warren Ellis' Star Trek on the other hand could be fun.

 

[Fer]

Personally, I always enjoy the in-jokes. The nymock reference made me smile.

 

[Judith Sisko]

Apologies to Kirsten, I know she's not the only one to pay homage, but these are the only examples I can think of at the moment: Decan, D'Mack and Ensign Ward in Full Circle. (I think it was an ensign.)

IIRC, wasn't there was an Admiral Palmieri in a book somewhere, too?

Like I said, I know there are more. Those are the only ones I can think of from the top of my head.

Pulls me right out.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

IIRC, wasn't there was an Admiral Palmieri in a book somewhere, too?

One memorable Marco appearance in a novel comes in Planet X; Wolverine pops his claws at Marco, who is a security guard on a Starbase.

 

[JD]

Apologies to Kirsten, I know she's not the only one to pay homage, but these are the only examples I can think of at the moment: Decan, D'Mack and Ensign Ward in Full Circle. (I think it was an ensign.)

IIRC, wasn't there was an Admiral Palmieri in a book somewhere, too?

Like I said, I know there are more. Those are the only ones I can think of from the top of my head.

Pulls me right out.

I'm the exact opposite, I love it when I can pick out names of real people in the books.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Like THIS, perhaps?

 

[James Swallow]

Warren Ellis' Star Trek on the other hand could be fun.

He did that already; see here.

 

[DWMarch]

I loved the Pulp Fiction reference in Precipice.

"Zett's dead, baby. Zett's dead."

 

[David Mack]

Warren Ellis' Star Trek on the other hand could be fun.

He did that already; see here.

Indeed, he did (as I noted previously earlier in this same thread). Honestly, I was not impressed with it.

 

[seigezunt]

This isn't quite a running pet peeve, but I was a little annoyed by the sheer number of typos in the Errand of Vengeance series. At least a couple of times where the names of the main Klingon characters were mixed up, as well as other name and rank inconsistencies, and word change edits that left the original word in. Made it seem a bit rushed to publication.