He pretty much gives up on being captain and has to be manipulated in to leadership again. He does little to discipline his crew, and he is generally uninspiring. I find Bortus more of a leader.
What is your favorite current Star Trek show?
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I still like Lower Decks, even though it's my least favorite of the current series.
On the other hand, when it comes to The Orville, I'm sorry but Seth MacFarlane's humor just isn't my style. It never has been. And TNG, the series he most wants to emulate, was never my favorite Star Trek series. So, for those two reasons alone, I was only going to ever like The Orville so much. A lot of its fans relentlessly attacking DSC didn't help matters either.
Actions speak louder than words. At the end of the day, I binged the second season of Lower Decks and saw it all. I have yet to watch the second season of The Orville and I doubt I ever will. After the first season ended, I just didn't come back, and that's all there was to it.
On the other hand, when it comes to The Orville, I'm sorry but Seth MacFarlane's humor just isn't my style. It never has been. And TNG, the series he most wants to emulate, was never my favorite Star Trek series. So, for those two reasons alone, I was only going to ever like The Orville so much. A lot of its fans relentlessly attacking DSC didn't help matters either.
Actions speak louder than words. At the end of the day, I binged the second season of Lower Decks and saw it all. I have yet to watch the second season of The Orville and I doubt I ever will. After the first season ended, I just didn't come back, and that's all there was to it.
That's his character arc before he becomes captain. Even Kirk and Picard have given up captaincy or almost done so. Pike is talking about doing it in the very first episode of Star Trek ever.
Exactly: Kermit.
Wow. IDIC I guess. But...whoa.
Mercer is not nearly as fun or charismatic as Kermit the Frog. That's not even a contest.
I can enjoy both Star Trek and The Orville. I just put them in different boxes in my head.
The Orville is nice but it can't even touch Star Trek. It is a good show though.
The Orville is nice but it can't even touch Star Trek. It is a good show though.
I am going with The Orville of course. But I like all the modern trek shows except Discovery and even Discovery has a few characters who could be interesting on a better show. Also The Orville can be Trek canon. It's just in a alternate universe were the Federation never got created and many of the Trek aliens never evolved or were seeded to evolve from "The Chase" aliens from TNG.
Favorite - meaning one, I have to go with The Center Seat: 55 Years of Star Trek on The History Channel. Its a must watch and its by far the best series right now in this 21st Century era of Star Trek. There's nothing better for me right now.
Pooh. Maurice Fact Trek'd it and it has an average an error per minute.
I'd love one day for there to be a really good documentary series about Star Trek.
It's a free country. You're entitled to be wrong.
If by genius you mean guy who has a history of making half-baked, undercooked in the middle versions of better tv shows then sure. It's basically Macfarlane cosplaying star trek like he did as a teenager in his garage. Macfarlane hasn't done enough to make the universe interesting and has borrowed all of Trek's worst tropes, including the reset button, when it came to Isaac which i hated, because Isaac had become quite a compelling character. I quite like Kelly, Bortas and claire but the other characters are pretty forgettable. Overall for me, The Orville is an ode to a version of Trek that had it's day and If I do want to revisit that version of trek, then i can just watch TNG, DS9 or VOY.
I have to wonder if Strange New Worlds would've been a very different series without The Orville showing that there's still a hunger for episodic Trek storytelling.
Is it a good idea to reject a series based on one season? And that one was the first, trying to find its way.
I've never been one to wait. That's where I'm different from a lot of you. Most of you have "give it three seasons" fused into your skulls and then you continue to watch out of habit. I'm totally free of that.
Plus I only spent how many years telling people Star Trek should move away from the Berman Era? I said that on this board from Day One in 1999. So why would I run flocking to a series that's trying to emulate it? And emulating it in a dudebro fashion, no less, that everyone knows I can't stand.
If something's not to your tastes, it's not to your tastes.
Sometimes a show just has so many elements (or a tone) you find unappealing that you don't want to give it another season. Happened with me and PIC.
That means you should only approach a series that's new for you after the final episode.
I'm more like what I mentioned above, I will really dig deep into a series after it's all out there.
Before Picard, I rewatched all of TNG. Most of it for the first time since high school. So now TNG is much fresher in my mind than it used to be. So if I watched The Orville now, I think it would make the comparison look even worse to me than it did in 2017.
Yes, it is. Either a show grabs you or it doesn't. Time is short and I don't have it to invest in hoping a show gets better. The number of shows that I have walked away from is quite long because it doesn't grab me. I made it in to Orville Season 2 and then that awful episode with Alara's family happened and I gave up.
Sorry everybody who likes it but....
I just thought of how very different season one of STNG was and what the program ultimately became.
I'm not sure if you like it but that's a good example.
If someone watches STNG season 1 today and doesn't like it, throwing rest of it away would be foolish.
Time is short but also patience is a virtue. Waiting can lead into finding some nice entertainment in many forms.
I haven't watched a single episode of 'Picard' and I know just by what people talk about it I wouldn't like it.
However, who knows what might become of it over time?
I have no patience with shows. TNG is a poor example for me. Season 3 didn't grab me any more than 1 did. Why would I continue forward?
Is there some series that could be a good example?
Perhaps the early episodes suck but you like the rest of it?
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