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What is the mirror universe and its rules for existing? Your theories

Re: What is the mirror universe and its rules for existing? Your theo

Yes, imperialism and democracy are by no means mutually exclusive. In fact, the world's first democracy, classical Athens, was also an empire.
 
Re: What is the mirror universe and its rules for existing? Your theo

I believe the prime and mirror universe must be linked interactively in a on-going way, they're tied together.

From a certain way of looking at it, they are one universe.
The problem I have with this theory is that the linking would have to be so arbitrary, really. The alternative would then suggest a kind of "intelligence" afoot at keeping certain major elements in sync while the rest is free to diverge. Is that God? Ummm... don't want to think so. Thus, I find it hard to swallow the interactive linking.

The main problem I see with the whole "Mirror Universe" idea is that there would have to be far too much in common for there to be the same births take place for the main characters. Very small things can cause terrific divergences that ripple outward to touch a majority of lives. Actually, what might have made more sense would be to have a few people played by different actors, or the same actors donning significant prosthetic alterations and role interpretations.

Anyway, when you start dipping too deeply into it, the whole thing gets very messy and complex... I don't try to understand it. I find the MU episodes entertaining and just brush off trying to explain how so much can be similar and yet garnished with such a distinctive deviation (like the assassination qualities which, for all intents and purposes, would have caused a far greater deviation from the PU).


And let's not fool ourselves into thinking people today are fundamentally better. Let's not forget that the most powerful country in the world launched an illegal war of aggression and occupation of Iraq just nine years ago, resulting in over 100,000 civilian deaths, and that it continues to kill hundreds of civilians every year in Afghanistan and Pakistan -- civilian lives that are routinely ignored or dehumanized in popular media. The imperial impulse that so animated the Romans is as alive today as it was back then.

I also heavily reject fan ideas like that it was an America which became Imperialist instead of Democratic that made the Terran Empire,

"Instead of?" You speak as though imperialism and democracy are incompatible. But when you look at the systematic invasion and conquest of Central North America (to say nothing of U.S. invasions and occupations of Haiti, Mexico, Panama, Cube, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines, among others), I really don't know how one can reasonably argue that the United States was not or is not an imperialist state.
It's refreshing to see someone expounding upon principles I've longed believed in. In this so called "modern society", we are fooled into thinking that we're socially much more advanced than our predecessors. The truth is that we're living in a "technological society", with advanced creature comforts that make it feel as though society is more advanced, when in fact it suffers many of the same problems that large scale societies have long faced.

The key of it all is the human condition. We evolve very slowly over time. We are still very much driven by our survival instincts, despite society intending to relieve us of those concerns. And then, with the industrial revolution, we are quickly thrust into a very different dynamic of living. The primal instincts don't dissolve, but instead adapt. But most people remain ignorant to this. This is why the sudden change in diet, the over abundance of protein and saturated fats, causes people to recklessly indulge in them without understanding that we weren't meant to eat this way. But we do it anyway, until the consequences begin to emerge: a plague of obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. And what of greed? Well, that's another thing which requires several pages of detail that would veer the conversation off course. All engines stop. ;)
 
Re: What is the mirror universe and its rules for existing? Your theo

The fact that the universes stayed synchronized, with respect to who was alive at particular times, is evidence that the universes must have been interactively linked somehow, and contradicts the assumption that the butterfly effect would cause the universes to diverge. It need not be intelligence at work. It could simply be that reality is more than what in-universe scientists think it is. As an analogy, the whole coin transcends its heads face and its tails face. So, in other words, perhaps the true reality is the sum of the two universes.
 
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