What is someone wants to join the Borg collective?
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If that person is the first one ever that asks to be assimilated, in some way that person would add something to the perfection they seek, a volunteer for assimilation.
My guess is that it's not an everyday event if someone wants to be assimilated. But when it happens/happened for the first time, in some way that person would add something to the collective, first volunteer for assimilation.
I never thought the idea of the Borg rejecting a species for assimilation made much sense--prioritizing yes, but not outright rejecting. The knowledge of any species would bring the Borg closer to comprehensivity, thus arguably closer to perfection. And the assimilated individuals of any species can provide physical labor of sorts (presumably without any training once part of the hivemind), thus increasing efficiency.
Is there any source for the idea of the Borg rejecting a species outside the line about the Kazon from "Mortal Coil"? If not, I mentally dismiss it as an ill-placed and illogical dig at a previous, less popular Voyager species dropped by the writers.
Is there any source for the idea of the Borg rejecting a species outside the line about the Kazon from "Mortal Coil"? If not, I mentally dismiss it as an ill-placed and illogical dig at a previous, less popular Voyager species dropped by the writers.
Even there we would have to imagine the kazon being resistant to the idea, which at the very least requires time and resources to invest during any potential assimilation attempt.
Had they been open to assimilation would the collective have viewed them differently? Easy drones and a slightly widened perspective for the hive mind?
Had they been open to assimilation would the collective have viewed them differently? Easy drones and a slightly widened perspective for the hive mind?
It was the dark of the moon on the 6th of June
And Starfleet pullin' logs
Cube over Pete with a Reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs
We was headin' for bear on Starbase One-oh
'Bout a mile out of Shakeytown
I says "Pig-pen, this here's Rubber Duck
And I'm about to put the Hammer down"
'Cause we got a little ol' Collective
Rockin' through the night
Yeah we got a little ol' Collective
Ain't she a beautiful sight
Come on and join our Collective
Ain't nothin gonna get in our way
We're gonna roll this Borg Collective
Across the UFP..
Admittedly, it is odd that the Kazon aren't worth assimilating, yet 21st century Earth was. Granted the Kazon are on the lower end of advanced Trek species, but they are warp capable, at least, which is more than you can say about Earth in 2063, especially since the Borg targeted them the day before they launched their first warp ship, and that being a refitted nuclear missile. So humans from a post apocalyptic wasteland of which only one person has any knowledge of warp drive are worth assimilating, but a spacefaring warp capable race isn't? For a race that prioritizes other races based on their technology, this seems very backwards.
Perhaps the Borg recognized the value of Earth as a strategic location. Meaning, once they've assimilated Earth, it puts them at an advantage which makes it easier to assimilate other major powers in the area.
And it's also important to point out the value of assimilating Earth before it can give rise to the Federation in the first place...
And it's also important to point out the value of assimilating Earth before it can give rise to the Federation in the first place...
An orbital bombardment would accomplish that, which they were doing anyway. A pre-warp civilization which doesn't even offer any biological advantages as drones (according to Voyager Dark Frontier) shouldn't be worth assimilating if a warp capable spacefaring race is rejected.
Recall as well with regards to the Kazon they were formerly slaves to the Trabe and hadn't developed any indigenous technologies and sort of lives off whatever limited resources they had and technology they stole/conquered/discovered.
The Borg apparently don't like coasters.
The Borg apparently don't like coasters.
I can't imagine the Borg being particularly interested in assimilating the Pakleds.
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As an individual it seems a struggle to get the borg to assimilate you. The borg like to do things with a mass of people.
The Borg's ostensible rejection of the Kazon is something I just ignore, as it's only established in one passing reference, the removal of which alters none of the plots. But it's impossible to ignore the Borg's unhealthy obsession with humanity. Pointing out humanity's pivotal place in the Federation only shifts the inflated sense of this species' importance from the Borg to the Trek universe more broadly (as, of course, conceived by anthropocentric writers).
That explains why the Borg would choose not to prioritize them, but outright rejecting them is still silly and nonsensical.
"_We_ are the Borg. You will not be assimilated. Insistence is futile."
Seriously though, we don't know enough about the Borg philosophy. They might just be ignored or destroyed. Then again, they might be assimilated just as they asked.
Individuals are often ignored, so it's debatable whether there is a general 'assimilation imperative' that would hold for sufficiently large groups, or whether all assimilation must be pre-approved by central Borg authority/concensus. Perhaps the Borg want to assimilate all, but according to their timetable.
Seriously though, we don't know enough about the Borg philosophy. They might just be ignored or destroyed. Then again, they might be assimilated just as they asked.
Individuals are often ignored, so it's debatable whether there is a general 'assimilation imperative' that would hold for sufficiently large groups, or whether all assimilation must be pre-approved by central Borg authority/concensus. Perhaps the Borg want to assimilate all, but according to their timetable.
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Actually, I don't think a race would have to be "stupid" to want to be assimilated by the Borg; they just couldn't care about individuality. I could imagine a race evolved from, say, bee-like creatures finding great purpose in the Borg. Any group already oriented toward a "hive-mind" may find that joining the Borg is actually advantageous. Conversely, the Borg may want that group since they wouldn't resist and already be acclimated to a group mentality. What would be interesting would be how a different hive mind could influence the hive mind of the Borg...
^ curious how much the Bynars would oppose assimilation!
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