And Koval, the chairman of the Tal Shiar was also secretly working for Section 31 too.
What is DS9's Biggest Misfire?
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Jadzia and Worf there has never been a pair more vomit inducing pair-"heart of a poet", my "par'makai"? Really I'm not hostile to either character but dang that was stupid.
How would Worf react to learning Jadzia never made it to Sto-vo-kor?
Is this a trick question? We saw how he reacted when he believed Jadzia wouldn't get to Stovokor.
I'm asking if he learned his efforts were in vain.
Maybe she chose Trill heaven instead.
They may not have but it seems sensible.
Easily this. Like the revelations about The Sisko's parentage in the final season, it takes a credible (very real, very flawed, very human) character and taints them with a backstory that retroactively makes their achievements in overcoming the adversities of their life, as well as all of the character development we've seen them undergo on-screen, seem..... a little less impressive, to be honest.
I've seen some people claim that bringing Alexander back was a bit of a misfire too, but I actually kind of liked what they did with him. Felt like a nice progression from his last TNG appearance, and gave the Worf/Alexander relationship a new aspect.
This reminds me of an awesome Quark/Bashir exchange...
BASHIR: I'm going to help Jadzia get into Sto-vo-kor.
QUARK: What makes you think she wants to spend eternity there? I know I certainly wouldn't! Imagine what it must be like! Hoards of rampaging Klingons, fighting and singing, sweating and belching.
BASHIR: Sounds like this place on a Saturday night.
QUARK: Would you want to spend eternity here?
O'BRIEN: That's a good point. What if Jadzia would prefer to go to, you know, wherever it is that Trills go when their time is up?
I feel like that's the closest they ever got to referencing a Trill afterlife -- "wherever it is that Trills go" Though in a way, being joined ensures a form of afterlife, and it's a form they can prove definitively exists. It's interesting to wonder if the unjoined Trill believe in an afterlife for themselves.
In the books IIUC they live for a long time-many centuries.
When poking around on Memory Alpha, I saw that the birth year of the symbiont was established as 2018 (someone will have to start a "happy birthday, Dax slug!" thread next year). So the symbiont is 357 when DS9 ends, and it certainly feels like everyone imagines it could have hundreds more years of life left in it.
Do slugs have to leave the host to procreate? Are they genderless? When they say "there are only 500 slugs" does that mean at that time? Or is that for all time? Like there is a set number, no procreation.
And is it the slug, or the Trill that has the supernatural telepathic powers. I say it's the slug, because they communicate with each other in the mud pool with bolts of electricity.
And is it the slug, or the Trill that has the supernatural telepathic powers. I say it's the slug, because they communicate with each other in the mud pool with bolts of electricity.
Now that you mention it, that's probably exactly how it went down. Remember that he was "on the outs" with the Cardassian government at the time over Ziyal and the war with the Klingons. I imagine that he offered the Dominion a "toehold" in the AQ in exchange for becoming leader of Cardassia through Dominion support. It's basically left unsaid exactly how it all went down though.
For me one of the biggest misfires is the way Jadzia's death was handled. I like that she died because I feel it was a good opportunity to explore the Trill...but the way she died was so anticlimactic.
My opinion for the worst misfire is the fact that Damar dies. Again, anticlimactically, but in this case it just felt like the writers discarded a character who had received one of the most subtle, interesting and important arcs in the show right at the last moment. It felt like leaving things open to focus on Garak but I think that could still have been done without unnecessarily killing off Damar. I wanted him to be there to rebuild Cardassia, that was where his arc beautifully and naturally led, but alas..
My opinion for the worst misfire is the fact that Damar dies. Again, anticlimactically, but in this case it just felt like the writers discarded a character who had received one of the most subtle, interesting and important arcs in the show right at the last moment. It felt like leaving things open to focus on Garak but I think that could still have been done without unnecessarily killing off Damar. I wanted him to be there to rebuild Cardassia, that was where his arc beautifully and naturally led, but alas..
