What if Tuvix had survived?
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They would have been hired on as boom operators.
I don't hate the idea of Pon Farr ending when the female is pregnant, except that there would surely be situations when one or both partners could be infertile. And then Saavik didn't get pregnant, although at one point that was the plan. And Tuvok couldn't have impregnated the hologram of his wife - just another reason to hate the weak resolution of Pon Farr being satisfied with a holodeck romp.
And then Pon Farr can be ended thru combat. I think it's more likely that Pon Farr ends, or at least begins to end, with an orgasm. I've heard it suggested that Spock did "finish" when he was fighting Kirk. That makes more sense to me than that their mating drive can be satisfied thru a non sexual fight.
And then Pon Farr can be ended thru combat. I think it's more likely that Pon Farr ends, or at least begins to end, with an orgasm. I've heard it suggested that Spock did "finish" when he was fighting Kirk. That makes more sense to me than that their mating drive can be satisfied thru a non sexual fight.
Vulcans are really f'd up if Pon Farr can only end through climax by intercourse or climax by killing someone. Logically, Vulcans wouldn't consider the latter a sex crime.
The union won't like that.
Extra points if it hits the gong.
that was great
The fight seems pretty sexual to me. Spock deliberately slashes Kirk's shirt open to expose a nipple, and there's all that rolling around. If you want to believe that Spock had an orgasm by the end of the fight I don't see anything preventing that interpretation. It even makes sense I think that he'd have an orgasm since the whole point of Pon Farr is to get one out of him.
But what is a Vulcan orgasm. Might just be the equivalent of a cough. Ever seen a person have an orgasm without making silly (emotionally) based faces? Even taking a piss sometimes involves the "pleasure" of relief. Do Vulcans go......ahhhhh
Get one out?
You act like he has a bunch of climaxes under lock and key inside his belly.
I was thinking about gay Vulcans again.
If the choice is death or powering through once every 7 years, it doesn't seem like a huge sacrifice? We're not talking about marriage, cohabitation, feelings or a relationship. Just a mechanical act to avoid death.
Throughout history men and women have had unenjoyable dissatisfying sex, why should this be any different?
Besides, it's not supposed to be enjoyable. It's medicinal like how diabetics are eventually sometimes told that they will die soon unless someone cuts one of their feet off.
(I have Mary Poppins singing "a spoon full of sugar" in my head.)
Being gay doesn't mean that it's physically impossible to do it with the opposing sex, just that you'd rather really, really not.
Creating erections? Limp dicks can't fuck. 3 popsicle sticks and a rubber band says otherwise.
Pon Farr makes boners that can last for days, but mirroring the effects of the males on women, does the blood fever make females super wet and gagging for it?
T'Pring just sat there placidly scheming.
If her reaction is "normal", is it possible that Pon Far sedates women so that Vulcanian men don't have to worry about the girls trying to bat at their fiancée's careless erotic rampage?
Although, if Gay Vulcan's have 6 years and 362 days to make sure that their next Pon Farr is as pleasant as possible despite what goes where, you'd think that they'd chronically scheme until what was to come was less harrowing.
Have you heard of Domino transplant surgery?
You need a kidney and your friend will donate but they're not a match for you, so they find someone else in the same situation, ipso facto you take their friend's kidney, and they take your friend's Kidney. Of course calling it a Domino surgery implies that potentially dozens of sets of donors and recipients can cross match and cross transplant.
So, what I am obviously suggesting is an orgy.
Maybe it's less awful to drive in and out of a vagina, if you have each of your hands rubbing up and down an incredibly hot guys chest distracting you from what your penis is up to and in to?
Although I doubt that would work.
The strongest males in any group would first kill the weakest males and then move on to everyone else a meat and two veges, until the last living male from that ill fated orgy is probably in no condition to fuck. Which would lead to an even bigger problem if there was one out of his gourd bloke surrounded by 12 blood fevered women. Would any female do? (Would any male do?) What if only sex to that undefined point with the woman he is telepathically pair-bonded to/with will end Pon farr (which is pretty much what we've been taught?), but the lad gripped by madness would rather do it with the other nine ladies locked in the sex dungeon until he dies, before admitting his wife to the sex rotor. This might not be because he hates his wife, but just a tool to prolong pon-farr like how human teenagers think about baseball statistics to get past the third minute of intercourse.
This might work out gangbusters for gay (male) Vulcans. 4 days of hot gay Pon farr sex with all the fit men who got in line to celebrate your big day, and then a minute and a half with the wife to end the party just before your brain blows up, like how an out control nascar car will crash into a giant barrier of old car tires to stop from flying into a grandstand full of hillbillies.
Although if Pon farr makes females dopey, agreeable to suggestion and probably numb, once Pon farr has started, being a lesbian is probably not a problem, just dread on the lead up and shame after the fact, but "during" would probably feel like a nap, which sounds like when I had my wisdom teeth out. (Lots of morphine.)
Water finds it own level, I'd think that B'Elanna had to adopt the male role in the Vulcan courtship procedure, because Tom is a big girls blouse.
Looking over what I just wrote, I think I insulted straight women far more than homosexuals.
C'est la vie.
Guy, could you top a man so long as there was a topless woman letting you touch her at the same time? Same situation. I'd say, sure, that could work (not for everybody), but the novels have established concretely that Vulcans participate in sex outside of Pon Farr.
There's also more to a mated pair than just sex. It would make sense that gay Vulcans would still have a same sex partner for all the same reasons that a hetero Vulcan would want an opposite sex spouse to share their lives even outside of sex.
There is an awful lot we don't know about how Trek alien societies deal with homosexuality. As a gay man I naturally wonder how I'd fit into other societies. Do Vulcan and/or Betazed arranged marriages also arrange same sex marriages for their gay children? One of the ENT novels has a married pair of Klingon males who were treated as completely normal and had respect and authority, for example. In the novel Imzadi, Lwaxana tells Troi about how her own arranged engagement ended because her finacee left her for another man. At the very least forcing a homosexual to enter into a heterosexual marriage doesn't sound very logical, but then Vulcans are often illogical about how they conduct their personal lives.
I can't really see any reason though why there would be a gay Vulcan orgy instead of them just doing it with one mate like all the heterosexuals. None of the male Vulcans we've seen in Pon Farr went on mass rapes (although Vorik arguably came close) or had group sex.
Nothing in your post offended me but I do think it's cool that a presumably heterosexual male apparently spends more time thinking about gay Vulcan Pon Farr orgies than I do
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I go by female rules.
I will blow anyone except my parents who buys me dinner.
Wait?
Dee had TWO arranged marriages?
She was supposed to marry Teabag from Prison Break in early season one TNG.
Was one a back-up arranged marriage, or are they polygamists?
In Wolf Hall a couple weeks back, the blacksmith's kid burnt his hand. So the blacksmith puts his Kid's hands in the horse's water trough, telling him to cross his arms at the wrists, because the brain gets confused and doesn't know where the pain is supposed to be.
I will blow anyone except my parents who buys me dinner.
Wait?
Dee had TWO arranged marriages?
She was supposed to marry Teabag from Prison Break in early season one TNG.
Was one a back-up arranged marriage, or are they polygamists?
In Wolf Hall a couple weeks back, the blacksmith's kid burnt his hand. So the blacksmith puts his Kid's hands in the horse's water trough, telling him to cross his arms at the wrists, because the brain gets confused and doesn't know where the pain is supposed to be.
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Sorry. It was Big text time and the words where jumbling all over my face.
Hmmm?
Is that why Lwaxanna has had 15 (guessing a number here.) husbands, because the true love bullshit she was sold as a child was derailed?
Remind me? Did she divorce Odo?
If she hadn't yet, but then did divorce him in season 8 DS9, does that mean that she is legally entitled to Half the Dominon?
Hmmm?
Is that why Lwaxanna has had 15 (guessing a number here.) husbands, because the true love bullshit she was sold as a child was derailed?
Remind me? Did she divorce Odo?
If she hadn't yet, but then did divorce him in season 8 DS9, does that mean that she is legally entitled to Half the Dominon?
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This episode was traumatising.
and non-
Nah. It was an arranged marriage, and Lwaxana had a good sense of humor about it. She commented that they made a cuter couple than she and he did. Lwaxana had true love with Deanna's father.
Lwaxana did divorce Odo, although I'd love to see a story about Lwaxana, Queen of the Dominion.
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