what if Admiral Kirk activated the Enterprise's self-destruct sequence in Star Trek II, after Khan attacked the Enterprise for the first time?
what if the Enterprise self-destructed in Star Trek II?
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We'd...all be speaking Whale?
How would that have solved anything?
Khan would have been free to roam the universe. I suppose he wouldn't have Genesis. I suppose after a big trail of destruction Starfleet would finally capture Khan. There would be no more TOS movies.
And as someone else pointed out the people/animals of Earth would have been destroyed by the Probe in STIV. Then there would have been no TNG, VOY, DS9. We'd still have ENT though.
Do you mean taking out Khan and the Reliant too? Whats the range of a self-destruct?
I don't think its far enough.
Khan would have been free to roam the universe. I suppose he wouldn't have Genesis. I suppose after a big trail of destruction Starfleet would finally capture Khan. There would be no more TOS movies.
And as someone else pointed out the people/animals of Earth would have been destroyed by the Probe in STIV. Then there would have been no TNG, VOY, DS9. We'd still have ENT though.
Do you mean taking out Khan and the Reliant too? Whats the range of a self-destruct?
I don't think its far enough.
5000 meters, Kirk and crew manage to escape via shuttlecraft and got to a safe distance outside the explosion.
Did they take out Khan, the Reliant and Chekov?
^^^Source?
Wouldn't Khan just pick off the shuttles and lifeboats with phasers and torpedoes? Seems a fairly foolish & desperate maneuver for an experienced starship captain to attempt.
Onboard Reliant:
Crewman: Sir, it appears Kirk has activated self-destruct onobard the Enterprise. It will blow in 5 minutes.
Khan: Range?
Crewman: 5000 meters sir.
Khan: Take us just outside the blast radius.
Crewman: Sir, it appears the crew is escaping via shuttle crafts.
Khan: Torpedoes, full spread.
*Reliant unloads a full volly of torpedoes destroying each and every shuttle craft, and then when the Enterprise explodes Khan and his crew are far enough away from the explosion.
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Yep. Something like that.
Crewman: Sir, it appears Kirk has activated self-destruct onobard the Enterprise. It will blow in 5 minutes.
Khan: Range?
Crewman: 5000 meters sir.
Khan: Take us just outside the blast radius.
Crewman: Sir, it appears the crew is escaping via shuttle crafts.
Khan: Torpedoes, full spread.
*Reliant unloads a full volly of torpedoes destroying each and every shuttle craft, and then when the Enterprise explodes Khan and his crew are far enough away from the explosion.
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Yep. Something like that.
I don't know for sure, but I think the OP has posted here before under a different username. I remember seeing several threads like this pop up last summer, most of them dealing with supposed replacement actors for Jonathan Frakes and Avery Brooks because their appearances changed during their series.
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You're forgetting Starfleet Order 2004, from the DE and SLV versions of TMP, which is instant BOOM.
That said, this is a dumb topic.
Why didn't they blow up the ship in TFF? Ship seized by a hostile force, intent unknown, crew brainwashed and no longer loyal to the Federation. It would be the most logical option.
Because what you call ``ship seized by a hostile force, intent unknown, crew brainwashed and no longer loyal to the Federation'' is what Kirk calls ``Tuesday''.
Because it's what the pirates from Astérix would have done, not the Enterprise crew.
Then Admiral Kirk would have activated the Enterprise's self-destruct after Khan attacked the Enterprise for the first time.
Next question?
I hate to breath life into this thread (and I won't be successful anyway), but I remember Scotty's line from TMP suggesting that self destruct would destroy V'Ger. This always struck me as waaaaaaay more destructive force than we ever saw from a SD or WCB sequence (TSFS or GEN).
But this all begs of the OP. Why? Feels like a potential troll to me.
Scotty in TMP was referring to the antimatter in the storage pods (iirc), in Generations it was the warp core and not necessarily the storage pods that exploded, the pods might have survived the explosion. The explosion in Generations was similar to the one in Timescape, which was also the warp core exploding.
The self-destruct in TSFS would seem to have been neither the reactor, nor the pods, rather a series of explosive charges spread through the primary hull, I don't recall any explosions in the secondary hull, or in the nacelles.
The self-destruct in TSFS would seem to have been neither the reactor, nor the pods, rather a series of explosive charges spread through the primary hull, I don't recall any explosions in the secondary hull, or in the nacelles.
Scotty in TMP was referring to the antimatter in the storage pods (iirc), in Generations it was the warp core and not necessarily the storage pods that exploded, the pods might have survived the explosion. The explosion in Generations was similar to the one in Timescape, which was also the warp core exploding.
The self-destruct in TSFS would seem to have been neither the reactor, nor the pods, rather a series of explosive charges spread through the primary hull, I don't recall any explosions in the secondary hull, or in the nacelles.
I'm hung up on the fact that both TMP and TSFS are branded 'self destruct'. I'm looking for consistency where I know I'm not going to find it.
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