What if First Contact had secondary Antagonists?

[Acenos]

Since Earth at around the time of Zefram Cochrane's warp flight is technically post apocalyptic in the of aftermath of World War 3. While the crew on the Enterprise E fight against the Borg hijacking the ship, the landing party attempting to correct history on the Surface faces another Enemy. A Mad Max style gang with a bone to pick with Cochrane. Something like this:

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Won't specify what he did but it surely pissed them off and they want payback for whatever he'd done to anger them and their leader. They want to Kill him as well as slaughter everyone else in the shanty and the landing party will have to put up with this Shit:

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As this situation was never recorded into their histories in the future or was triggered after the Borg's brief bombardment of the site of the Phoenix's launch silo, the away team now would have to also battle against this faction of marauders as they lay siege on the Montana shanty and the missile silo where the Phoenix resides in, Said gang dead set on murdering Cochrane and destroying the Phoenix out of vengeance or for raw materials. Might involve a car chase through the ruins of Bozeman down the line"

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The Bottom line here is that the secondary storyline set on Earth should have been a retelling or a Star Trek take on The Road Warrior. Take full advantage o the pos apocalyptic nature of the post-anomic horror. Actually show the audience that it's post apocalyptic with this sort of classic imagery of a post apocalyptic setting.

 

[Push The Button]

That’s what phasers are for.

 

[somebuddyX]

How about no.

 

[publiusr]

That might have been a spin off.
It was called The Postman.

 

[Acenos]

That’s what phasers are for.

it won't matter if they'res more people than your phaser can stun/kill

 

[Acenos]

How about no.

you have any issues with making post-atomic horro Earth genuinely post apocalyptic? Complete with punk marauders riding around in hot rods and choppers? It makes it more exciting. ad also the mutants too!

 

[Orphalesion]

Only if Tina Turner reprises her role from the Mad Max movies and the climax consists of a fight/car chase with her and her people, the Borg Queen and her Borg, the Enterprise Crew and Cochrane and his people all racing and fighting each other over the Phoenix.

 

[Acenos]

F

Only if Tina Turner reprises her role from the Mad Max movies and the climax consists of a fight/car chase with her and her people, the Borg Queen and her Borg, the Enterprise Crew and Cochrane and his people all racing and fighting each other over the Phoenix.

irst contact had the most boring post apocalypse that i've ever seen. Not enough mutants and punks

 

[Acenos]

The only problem I have with this movie is how Earth is portrayed. It's not post-apocalyptic enough and a very boring post apocalyse.

DATA: According to our astrometric readings we're in the mid twenty-first century. From the radioactive isotopes in the atmosphere I would estimate we have arrived approximately ten years after the Third World War.
RIKER: Makes sense. Most of the major cities have been destroyed. There are few governments left. Six hundred million dead. No resistance.

You sure? Earth looks pretty clean to be that badly mauled by nuclear war. If all the major cities are destroyed then where's the indications that they are. They need to be shown as giant black scorch marks.big enough to be seen from space. What they described is a fucking post apocalyptic dystopia.

Earth in 2063 in the Movie:

Bozeman in the Movie:

What Earth should look like in 2063:

What Bozeman should really look like This is what defines Post-atomic horror:

The people the Landing Party should be fighting against to protect Bozeman, Cochrane, the Phoenix and their own future:

It needs more punks. it needs more mutants. it needs more vaults.

Still raging over how Trek never accurately depicting post WW3 Earth realistically. If they want to show a post apocalyptic earth, then by god, sell it to the audience by adding all this cool stuff. the producers had no balls to do that.

Aother thing I wished they could have done was for cochrane to take advantage of the landing party's claims of coming from the future and fool around with them by faking suicides. them getting nervous when he pretends that he's about to shoot himself.

 

[somebuddyX]

you have any issues with making post-atomic horro Earth genuinely post apocalyptic? Complete with punk marauders riding around in hot rods and choppers? It makes it more exciting. ad also the mutants too!

Yes. I think that's completely at odd with the film as presented. Maybe that could go be in some other film that had flashbacks to the post-atomic horror but First Contact definitely did not need scenes like these.

 

[Acenos]

Yes. I think that's completely at odd with the film as presented. Maybe that could go be in some other film that had flashbacks to the post-atomic horror but First Contact definitely did not need scenes like these.

but it makes the setting more cool. they are fighting the borg up in the enterprise while the landing party would have to deal with their own set of enemies on the surface

 

[somebuddyX]

Yeah, but on the other hand.

 

[The Wormhole]

You couldn't combine this with your other thread asking what if Cochrane had to fight Mad Max style hooligans?

For that matter, shouldn't both threads be in the forum for the ten Prime Universe movies?

 

[Tim Thomason]

They wouldn't fit in. The idea behind FC was that Earth was already getting better. Cochrane was confused by the presence of hostile forces (Borg), "after all these years" because of the relatively peaceful, if impoverished, existence they lived in. It was an optimistic locale, showing how we were already improving ourselves after nuclear hellfire and that the warp test was just another push towards that goal.

It is at odds with the post-apocalyptic horror of 2079 as presented in Encounter at Farpoint, but the onus of that was on the filmmakers. In the film itself, any post-atomic horror should be behind them (pre-2063).

Also, it wouldn't make sense for Australian desert gangs to be roaming the dense, mountainous wilderness of central Montana in early spring.

 

[Acenos]

They wouldn't fit in. The idea behind FC was that Earth was already getting better. Cochrane was confused by the presence of hostile forces (Borg), "after all these years" because of the relatively peaceful, if impoverished, existence they lived in. It was an optimistic locale, showing how we were already improving ourselves after nuclear hellfire and that the warp test was just another push towards that goal.

It is at odds with the post-apocalyptic horror of 2079 as presented in Encounter at Farpoint, but the onus of that was on the filmmakers. In the film itself, any post-atomic horror should be behind them (pre-2063).

Also, it wouldn't make sense for Australian desert gangs to be roaming the dense, mountainous wilderness of central Montana in early spring.

it's a post apocalyptic world FFS. of course it fits. Everyhere is a desert according to many post apocalyptic movies

for the last one. I'm showing this just to help in visualizing what these kind of marauders would look like.

 

[Acenos]

Yeah, but on the other hand.

all post apocalyptic settings are miles and miles of endless desert wasteland and black scorch marks where cities once stood. there's also mutants and punks driving around in hotrods too.

 

[Orphalesion]

F

irst contact had the most boring post apocalypse that i've ever seen. Not enough mutants and punks

You know that leather-clad motorcycle punks and "mutants" riding around in fanciful cars is not how a post-apocalypse would look like.

 

[Acenos]

You know that leather-clad motorcycle punks and "mutants" riding around in fanciful cars is not how a post-apocalypse would look like.

well it makes it less boring and it gives the Enterprise's crew a whole new set of villains to deal with

 

[The Wormhole]

You know that leather-clad motorcycle punks and "mutants" riding around in fanciful cars is not how a post-apocalypse would look like.

It's not? Well shit, I've been spending all that money on leather and motorcycles since the pandemic started for nothing.

 

[somebuddyX]

all post apocalyptic settings are miles and miles of endless desert wasteland and black scorch marks where cities once stood. there's also mutants and punks driving around in hotrods too.

Yeah, but in some other post-apocalyptic films that doesn't happen. Mad Max wasn't a documentary. We've had zero post-apocalyptic societies in the real world so I think there's some latitude for it's depiction.