What happened to the USS Farragut?

[MvRojo]

Instead she heard radio silence. Why?

Wasn't the Narada jamming a bunch of stuff?

The drill jammed communications and transporters.

 

[Trekker4747]

How do you know the Farragut wasn't just maintaining radio silence so the Narada wouldn't hear them? Ever think of that?

I think that contradicts the explanation given on screen that there was no communication because the other ships were under attack. BTW, what's funny?

Only the ships at Vulcan were under attack. Not ships in random spots in space.

Are you being intentionally dense?

All of the cadet ships, including the Farragut, were being sent to Vulcan.

All of the cadet ships, save the Enterprise, were destroyed in the battle over Vulcan because Nero's ship far out gunned them.

No dialogue in the movie tells us that the Farragut survived the battle or wasn't at the battle.

The Farragut was destroyed.

Period.

All signs in the movie point to this happening and not a single sign points to the Farragut surviving. Now, that doesn't mean ALL crew of these ship died, there could have been survivors. But at the very least the ship herself -the Farragut- was destroyed. All signs in the movie point to this.

None point to the Farragut surving. NONE. No scrap of dialogue says this.

NONE




Trekker, holds out hope we see the "Orion" hottie again in the sequel.

 

[Inquisitive]

And I find it immature when people don't pay attention to the dialogue of a film. Guess we're even. Try debating a point next time rather than simply reposting the same thing because it's spamming by definition. I don't care if you agree with me or not.

My responses were to different replies and just happened to have the same text, so by definition it wasn't spamming.

We never saw the Farragut destroyed onscreen so it is not canon that it was destroyed. For all we know someone on the Farragut realized it was a trap and the ship dropped out of warp.

Why does Kirk have to be the only person in the Federation who isn't retarded?

No, the Farragut was part of the rescue force sent to investigate the Vulcan distress call, therefore it was destroyed along with the five other ships that made it into orbit before the Enterprise arrived. Ockham's razor shreds your idea because you basically have to make up and entirely unlikely story in order to explain why the Farragut realized it was a trap, not to mention the fact that it realized it was a trap without warning the rest of the fleet.

 

[urbandk]

Trekker, holds out hope we see the "Orion" hottie again in the sequel.

Me too!

 

[MvRojo]

Only the ships at Vulcan were under attack. Not ships in random spots in space.

Well, the Farragut left before the E, so it can be inferred that it arrived first. Had it chosen to divert course, the E would have picked it up when it was monitoring the channels. Moreover, it would have been logical for the Farragut to alert any other ships that it had figured out that they were headed into a trap. But the Farragut didn't. It is reasonable to conclude it was with the fleet and was destroyed.

How do you know that the Farragut didn't figure things out at the last minute, like the Enterprise, and put its shields on. Once it realized things were hopeless, it warped the hell out of there.

Since the Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen, we do not know what happened to it. Case closed.

The thing was only the people on the Enterprise could piece it together. The Kelvin attack was 20 or so years prior. Not everyone would know all the details (e.g. the "lightning storm in space"). Uhura happened to have the info that a massive Romulan ship (reminiscent of the one that destroyed the Kelvin) destroyed 47 Klingon ships. So basically, the only way that the Enterprise was prepared was because Kirk, Pike and Uhura knew specific pieces of information.

 

[candle_86]

Captain Robau never lived to design it. It would have been the first Federation starship to incorporate a goodass badass intermix chamber.

The Farragut was the ship Picard hailed to beam he and Riker up in the final scene of the Generations movie, from the rubble of the Enterprise D was it?

do a close up of the orbit scene, you will find the Farragut was the Nebula class, i though everyone knew that

 

[T'Paul]

Well, the Farragut left before the E, so it can be inferred that it arrived first. Had it chosen to divert course, the E would have picked it up when it was monitoring the channels. Moreover, it would have been logical for the Farragut to alert any other ships that it had figured out that they were headed into a trap. But the Farragut didn't. It is reasonable to conclude it was with the fleet and was destroyed.

How do you know that the Farragut didn't figure things out at the last minute, like the Enterprise, and put its shields on. Once it realized things were hopeless, it warped the hell out of there.

Since the Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen, we do not know what happened to it. Case closed.

If it arrived at the same coordinates as the E, a reasonable assumption, it would have engaged the Narada. How do I know this? Because no Federation ship would cut and run when Vulcan is in jeopardy. To suggest that it would is counter to what we know about the conduct of Starfleet.

Didn't Spock cut and run when Earth was in jeopardy? Your logic makes no sense.

 

[T'Paul]

I think that contradicts the explanation given on screen that there was no communication because the other ships were under attack. BTW, what's funny?

Only the ships at Vulcan were under attack. Not ships in random spots in space.

Are you being intentionally dense?

All of the cadet ships, including the Farragut, were being sent to Vulcan.

All of the cadet ships, save the Enterprise, were destroyed in the battle over Vulcan because Nero's ship far out gunned them.

No dialogue in the movie tells us that the Farragut survived the battle or wasn't at the battle.

The Farragut was destroyed.

Period.

All signs in the movie point to this happening and not a single sign points to the Farragut surviving. Now, that doesn't mean ALL crew of these ship died, there could have been survivors. But at the very least the ship herself -the Farragut- was destroyed. All signs in the movie point to this.

None point to the Farragut surving. NONE. No scrap of dialogue says this.

NONE




Trekker, holds out hope we see the "Orion" hottie again in the sequel.

The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Therefore we do not know what happened to it. Period.

 

[Squiggy]

Only the ships at Vulcan were under attack. Not ships in random spots in space.

Well, the Farragut left before the E, so it can be inferred that it arrived first. Had it chosen to divert course, the E would have picked it up when it was monitoring the channels. Moreover, it would have been logical for the Farragut to alert any other ships that it had figured out that they were headed into a trap. But the Farragut didn't. It is reasonable to conclude it was with the fleet and was destroyed.[/QUOTE]
How do you know that the Farragut didn't figure things out at the last minute, like the Enterprise, and put its shields on. Once it realized things were hopeless, it warped the hell out of there.

Since the Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen, we do not know what happened to it. Case closed.

Not so fast there Scooter.

USS Farragut (23rd century)

In an alternate reality, in 2258, the Farragut was part of a Federation fleet sent to investigate Vulcan while it was being attacked by the Romulan mining vessel Narada. Nyota Uhura was assigned to the Farragut; however, she was able to convince Spock to have her transferred to the USS Enterprise.
Upon arrival at Vulcan, the Farragut, along with the rest of the fleet, except for the Enterprise, were destroyed. (Star Trek)
The Farragut was briefly seen, however not specifically identified, when the shuttlecraft Gilliam flew over Earth Spacedock to the Enterprise.

So...yeah.

 

[urbandk]

How do you know that the Farragut didn't figure things out at the last minute, like the Enterprise, and put its shields on. Once it realized things were hopeless, it warped the hell out of there.

Since the Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen, we do not know what happened to it. Case closed.

If it arrived at the same coordinates as the E, a reasonable assumption, it would have engaged the Narada. How do I know this? Because no Federation ship would cut and run when Vulcan is in jeopardy. To suggest that it would is counter to what we know about the conduct of Starfleet.

Didn't Spock cut and run when Earth was in jeopardy? Your logic makes no sense.

Dude, he didn't arrive at Earth and then leave; he was following orders, which he interpreted to be the best way to confront the Narada, hardly cutting and running. Some other people raise some pretty valid points too. Are you laughing at me? I don't get it. What's the joke?

 

[candle_86]

anyone think she was damaged but salvagable, i mean they saved the defiant after the borg tore the living hell out of it, why not any of these ships?

 

[T'Paul]

If it arrived at the same coordinates as the E, a reasonable assumption, it would have engaged the Narada. How do I know this? Because no Federation ship would cut and run when Vulcan is in jeopardy. To suggest that it would is counter to what we know about the conduct of Starfleet.

Didn't Spock cut and run when Earth was in jeopardy? Your logic makes no sense.

Dude, he didn't arrive at Earth and then leave; he was following orders, which he interpreted to be the best way to confront the Narada, hardly cutting and running. Some other people raise some pretty valid points too. Are you laughing at me? I don't get it. What's the joke?

Where is the Starfleet rule that says you can't leave a fight when you're hopelessly outmatched?

 

[MvRojo]

anyone think she was damaged but salvagable, i mean they saved the defiant after the borg tore the living hell out of it, why not any of these ships?

The Defiant was still in one piece. From what we saw of the battle at Vulcan, there was just pulverized debris.

 

[urbandk]

Didn't Spock cut and run when Earth was in jeopardy? Your logic makes no sense.

Dude, he didn't arrive at Earth and then leave; he was following orders, which he interpreted to be the best way to confront the Narada, hardly cutting and running. Some other people raise some pretty valid points too. Are you laughing at me? I don't get it. What's the joke?

Where is the Starfleet rule that says you can't leave a fight when you're hopelessly outmatched?

Wolf 359.

 

[Trekker4747]

The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Therefore we do not know what happened to it. Period.

The Farragut wasn't wasn't destroyed on screen. Therefor your theory is just as bunk.

Fortuantly, more evidence supports my, and everyone elses', theory than yours.

 

[T'Paul]

The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Therefore we do not know what happened to it. Period.

The Farragut wasn't wasn't destroyed on screen. Therefor your theory is just as bunk.

Fortuantly, more evidence supports my, and everyone elses', theory than yours.

It isn't a theory. It's a statement of fact. The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Are you being intentionally dense?

 

[Qonos]

Well It really doesn't matter now does it since NuTrek Kirk is the Captain of the Enterprise and to our knowledge never served on the Farragut unless we are otherwise told so later in a new movie...

Am I right?

 

[nx1701g]

Trekker, holds out hope we see the "Orion" hottie again in the sequel.

Me too!

She wasn't assigned to the Farragut. We were never told which ship Gaila was assigned to.

 

[nx1701g]

The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Therefore we do not know what happened to it. Period.

The Farragut wasn't wasn't destroyed on screen. Therefor your theory is just as bunk.

Fortuantly, more evidence supports my, and everyone elses', theory than yours.

It isn't a theory. It's a statement of fact. The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Are you being intentionally dense?

There were seven ships sent - total including the Enterprise - to Vulcan and all crewed by Cadets. Six were said to be destroyed and Enterprise was the only survivor.

 

[Trekker4747]

The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Therefore we do not know what happened to it. Period.

The Farragut wasn't wasn't destroyed on screen. Therefor your theory is just as bunk.

Fortuantly, more evidence supports my, and everyone elses', theory than yours.

It isn't a theory. It's a statement of fact. The Farragut wasn't destroyed onscreen. Are you being intentionally dense?

Fine.

Neither Kirks father nor Spock's mother were killed on screen either.

Sure, events occured that implied an impending death, but we never saw them "die."

I therefor propose that Kirk's father and Spock's mother are both alive.

I also propose that Kirk and McCoy landed in the shuttlebay and then magically appeared in Sickbay. Afterall, we never SAW them get OFF the shuttle, walk down the hall, enter a turbolift and get off the sickbay's deck.

It's also possible Kirk was immaculately concieved.

Afterall, we never SAW Mr and Mrs. Kirk get dirty. So we've no proof that that guy was Kirk's father.