What else will be discovered then classified

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Attentiveluke, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. Attentiveluke

    Attentiveluke Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Since the USS discovery is discovering technology and species that is shouldnt have at this point in the timeline ( Eg Mirror Universe, Spore network, Tribbles, Gorn, USS Shenzou mutiny etc) then classifying these discoveries so future series dont mention them, what else should we expect to see in forthcoming seasons of DIS?. What would you like to see?. The first federation...the Doomsday machine...V'ger...the bajoran wormhole...Changelings...'God'... Mid chlorians?.
     
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  4. Hythlodeus

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    I could tell you, but...it is classified
     
  5. Spot261

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    A compound which gives people powerful telekinetic powers and would be really useful when combating Klingons/Jem'Hadar/random superhuman alien of the week.

    Time travel or alternate universes which keep being "theoretically possible" no matter how commonplace they become.

    An uninhabited planet within federation space with a sentient device on which can transport people to any place or time.

    An ancient alien civilisation on friendly terms with the federation who have vast starships beyond anything available to other major powers, including the borg

    An ancient alien civilisation with the ability to warp reality with the power of their mind, which despite being commonplace in the trek universe makes them a singular threat that requires their planet to be quarantined under threat of death. That the last contact with this species ended on friendly terms shouldn't in any way suggest they might be a potential and powerful ally.
     
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    The fact that the Picard family are actually English and not French, is strictly need to know.
     
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  8. Spot261

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    ooooh, imagine if section 31 had one of those available during the dominion war instead of some half assed poxy virus...
     
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  9. Timo

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    ...It really is chiefly an issue that the current heroes should discover all that stuff, it being out there waiting for them, and we need to invent excuses why all this wasn't already known by the time of Kirk.

    I mean, it doesn't take much to get to the Mirror Universe. How many times has this happened, and been classified, in the past century of human transporter operations? In the past thousand years of transporter operations by certain other UFP members? The Gorn (or insert any species name, really!) live nearby; who last stumbled onto them, and why was the encounter classified?

    On the other hand, nothing about the tribbles is new in TOS: all the players there know they exist - they state as much. How likely is it that our TOS heroes are the first foolish enough to feed them after midnight? Not very. But Cyrano Jones might be the first one idiotic enough to sell non-neutered tribbles.

    As for excuses for why classifying need not be required in every instance:

    Kironide was well known to the UFP for its "great power" before the episode already, but its effects on people were a surprise. Supposedly, then, it has no superpowers except on planet Platonius. Good luck luring Klingons, Jem'Hadar or RSAs there!

    ...And thus is rather capable of defending/hiding itself, via manipulating time if need be. Just because it can doesn't mean it will. Or that it won't, even if you ask it pretty please not to.

    But what good is vastness? Kirk's midget ship easily defeated the giant. Granted, it was supposed to be a ruse. But perhaps it was a double ruse, to hide the fact that the ship had no other superpower but the ability to make all that bulk move at moderate warp.

    In what sense, though? They hold the remote to a good TV set, but they don't really know how to fix that set, or to build another. Perhaps rummaging through their planet helps the UFP make better holodecks (which they eventually have, surpassing the Talosian illusions in realism), perhaps not.

    But storing the Talosians in a vast warehouse to be studied by Top. Men. isn't the issue in this particular case. The issue is why Pike was the first to fly close to the Talos system. Supposedly, it's a good shortcut from Rigel to Vega, but perhaps no good for anything else (c.f. the long-abandoned wasteland in which Khan was found), so humans just plain won't get there until shortly before DSC.

    Then again, dozens could have gone to Talos before Pike did. The Columbia supposedly really did, and didn't survive to tell the tale. This could have happened innumerable times; all that nonsense about the Talosians "not realizing humans weren't good slaves because they had not met any before" is an obvious lie, an attempt to save those frail necks when Pike (that is, Number One) has them on a stranglehold for once. Ditto for Vina being "disfigured" because of "no knowledge of humans"!

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    Sometimes the joke falls on deaf ears......

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  11. Timo

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    ...Sorry for being anal-retentive, but I think the fact that TOS did this a lot is a good way to demonstrate why it might not be so outlandish after all...

    (I did click "like" before typing the deconstruction, tho!)

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  12. guyute03

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    I can see them dragging the Borg back out. The Borg get people's attention, like it or not.
    And I personally have mixed feelings about showing them again but am curious how they would be redesigned, what their ships would look like. Maybe lots of green lense flare. I can totally see them doing it though.
     
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  13. KennyB

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    REALLY hope they do not.
     
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    The Borg were never the same after First Contact. That was peak Borg. I hope we don't see them again, myself. I think they represent a fear of technology specific to the eighties and probably lack the sting of pop culture relevance that they once had. A race which spoke to contemporary technology fears might be interesting. But i think big black cybernetics is a bit passé.
     
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    Or that it implies the British finally subjugated the French ;). While letting them retain the French language only to be used occasionally for effect.
     
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    Q and the Borg are two TNG enemies I'd rather never be encountered again, at least until there's a post-nemesis Trek.
     
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    Not that I necessarily want to see the Borg but the notion of a redesign and green lens flares piqued my interest.