What do you hate about Trek?

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I truly hated TATV.

I can't think of anything else I would use the word hate for except for one line in STXI which I've kind of gotten used to now.

 

[Shazam!]

I liked the nuTrek movie. It was fun. But there's nothing there that any SF franchise can't deliver - no television series means nothing of what makes Trek particularly interesting, at least to me.)

YES

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It does occur to me that I really do hate Riker. I can hardly stand to look at him.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

I hate the bland, colorless music in Berman-era Trek. (That dull, droning noise meandering under almost every scene, that was supposed to be music, right?)

 

[Pemmer Harge]

I'm not sure I really hate anything about Trek, but here are some things I don't much like:

The Enterprise sets on TNG.
Most Holodeck episodes.
The way we don't get much of a feel for Earth culture beyond how perfect and lovely it is.
Two episodes in particular : VOY Tuvix and ENT Dear Doctor. They're actually both quite compelling and well-acted, but they offend my sensibilities. Especially the latter, since the characters' weaknesses can't be used to excuse it.

 

[I am not Spock]

I liked the nuTrek movie. It was fun. But there's nothing there that any SF franchise can't deliver - no television series means nothing of what makes Trek particularly interesting, at least to me.)

YES

Double yes. The new film was entertaining, and its brought Trek back into the public eye, but for me, Trek is primarily a TV franchise. The movies are just a bonus.

 

[DevilEyes]

I'm not sure I really hate anything about Trek, but here are some things I don't much like:

The Enterprise sets on TNG.
Most Holodeck episodes.
The way we don't get much of a feel for Earth culture beyond how perfect and lovely it is.
Two episodes in particular : VOY Tuvix and ENT Dear Doctor. They're actually both quite compelling and well-acted, but they offend my sensibilities. Especially the latter, since the characters' weaknesses can't be used to excuse it.

I know what you mean. In fact, in the latter case, it doesn't make sense for Archer at all to make that decision and goes against his character completely. The writers sacrificed characterization for the "message", which is so wrong in many ways and based on dubious science, dubious logic and even more dubious ethics.

 

[Anji]

Rick Berman running Star Trek. He may be good at something, but taking care of Star Trek wasn't one of them.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Ditto underscore underscore.

Cut this crap out.

Blaxxer, you especially. It's one thing to speak an opinion in generalities, it's another to attack another poster. Keep board rules in mind everybody.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Keiko O'Brien. Miles was too good of a person and deserved so much better than that horrible bitch. I know I was rooting for him and Major Kira to hook up (which she's a bitch too,but at least she's lovable).

 

[indranee]

Ok, I love Trek.

But I only got into it over the last year, watching a series start to finish, so I'm pretty new, and I was wondering why fans, among who I now count myself, can get so pissed off with Trek.

Im just going to digress... sorry. When I was about 12 I started reading Stephen King, I'm a good reader, and I was also reading good literature, but I found King ok for escapism. People used to see me with a King book and take the piss out if him for being just a horror writer. I defended him all the time, I didnt say he was Noble prize stuff, but ok. Then he dropped something called 'The Dark Tower' this is the last book in a series which hadnt been good for a while, i wont go into it but just a taste: (dont read following sentence if dnt want it spoiled) the big villain turns out to be a an old man throwing explosive golden snitches from a balcony, they get rid of him by drawing a pic of him and rubbing him out...

Anyway, I was pissed. Not so much becuase it was so bad but because I had defended this guy, and he'd just handed me 500 words of shit. I sort of think the same about Trek, its really annoying having the defend it, its such a good show and all. But then someone will walk in on you watching 'The Amazing OKona' or 'Star Trek Generations' and you'll just curse how bad it is. You just have to shake it off with 'oh this is a bad episode'. This is something the writers dont often understand, there is so much obligation to be write well, and they often just hand in hack scripts.

okay now see, you're a new fan. after you've been with Trek for about 40 years like I have, you'll stop caring about how bad it can be at times and who walks in on you watching Who Watches the Watchers and start thanking the gods for having something like Trek at all in your life.

'cos, give and take everything else, the fact that Trek survives at all is something we've ALL got to be thankful for.