What do you diehard TOS fans think of the new movie?

[treklover]

Hi, TOS fans:
Could you please post what you really feel about the new movie?

Please, only TOS fans post.

Don't get me wrong, everybody. I like all the series and I love all you guys out there, but I am reading all kinds of reactions in other posts from people who really like either TNG, DS9, VOY, or ENT and some are glad the old series was changed in the movie. TOS fans may not feel this way.

Like I said, I love all you guys, but I am really curious to see what dedicated fans of the Original Series think.
Thanks so much everybody. Love ya.

So, to the true TOS fans only......What did you like or dislike about the new film?

 

[Brutal Strudel]

I loved it, even though it was everything I predicted it would be during my short career as a naysayer. It didn't prove me wrong, it proved me right a dozen times over and yet I just didn't care.

It's nice to know that, at 39, I can still surprise myself.

 

[AJBryant]

I liked it, but I also didn't like it.

My take is here:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=2930255&highlight=obsession#post2930255

 

[CDR6]

Well, with the original cast well into their golden years and some having departed this mortal coil already. A new cast is a given, the modern story telling telling techniques leave a lot to be desired. (All bang and fizz...no substance.) Still, I give them an "A" for effort. Paramount, may have jerked J.J. around with engineering, as he was spending big bucks real fast. I get the feeling they sort of went into a panic and cut his funds. (This is nothing new in film..ref Jaws, TNG, and many others.) Spielberg had the advantage that he was on the east coast and was going to keep shooting untill they come and take the film out of the camera. Back to trek... all in all it was ok, just so it makes back its costs I guess. Over all I can't help but feel something's missing in the film.

 

[number6]

TOS fan since 1970. I liked the film. The cast nailed the parts and made me believe. Not so hot on the drastic difference in design, but it works within the context of what it is and how it needed to be done.

I would have liked more TOS sound effects and more TOS motifs in the score. That and the bridge having a "windshield." WTF!??

Other than that, I thought they did a great job on the film. It touched the right nerves in this old fan.

 

[CDR6]

Yeah, I guess it is what it is...

 

[Brutal Strudel]

I liked it, but I also didn't like it.

My take is here:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=2930255&highlight=obsession#post2930255

Just read your post and I gotta say, that's pretty much how I see it. I've said this before and I'll say it again: this movie was like an old Gold Key comic. It was Star Trek as envisioned by high-spiritted eight-year-olds playing at being Kirk and Spock in the deserted old factory where they've been forbidden to play.

Looked at another way, Star Trek finally the got the tv-to-screen treatment most properties do, like Starsky & Hutch and Wild, Wild West. Nimoy and time travel were just fig leaves.

But I still really enjoyed it--it was oddly liberating, seeing what was once, when I was a child, the high-water mark of media SF reduced to bubblegum imbecility. It was fun.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Loved it.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

I'm a Star Trek purist through and through. Been there since the very beginning in the 60's.

The movie was great fun. Drove 90 minutes to see it in IMAX. Great interplay between the characters. Plenty of bone throwing for the TOS oldies too.

Now many purists are upset about the different timeline. I'm not. This is Trek for a new generation that will take it in a different direction. It is wholly seperate from TOS. That timeline to me remains unchanged. I guess I'm just able to seperate the two. I call it TOS Lite.

 

[OtterVomit]

SPOILERS FOLLOW

James T. Dean is promoted from Cadet to captain in one day? That's really hard to swallow. I am still trying to figure out why Spock was given no promotion but Kirk was immediately leapfrogged to Captain of the Flagship of the Federation? Also, are we really supposed to admire these kids who habitually show a complete lack of respect for authority and chain of command? Nero was a laughable character "HAR HAR I HATE SPOCK FOR A FLIMSY REASON AND I WILL ALSO ATTACK EARTH WITH MY DEATHSTAR FOR EVEN FLIMSIER REASONS!! GGRRAAWRRR!!" Nero also clearly had his ship designed with plenty of cool cliffs and scaffolding so as to increase the dramatic effect of the fist fights he would have with all the people he blamed for Romulus' demise...which was apparently anyone in sight. "I'M HIKARU SULU AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO MY JOB FOR SOME REASON!" Chris Pike "KIRK YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE...SO I'M PROMOTING YOU TO FIRST OFFICER." Delta Vega is no longer Gary Mitchell's Eden, now its the de-facto planet where you maroon people you are mad at. Spock shoots Kirk out of the side of the ship in a pod (??????). Scotty is hanging out with Creature From the Black Lagoon why? Uhura and Spock's relationship added what to the movie exactly other than two very forced scenes? Sarek's character was totally changed why? Seems like the original Sarek would have fit in nicely with the "AUTHORITY FIGURES ARE DUMB AND NEED TO BE BUCKED" theme of this moive.

On the plus side it looked nice, its fun, and the pacing is so fast that you don't really have enough time to think about all the absurdities you're seeing (and yes in this movie's case, that's a serious plus). They readily admit its an alternate timeline so we don't have to stroke out over TOS being washed away forever. It was good to see Nimoy again and, to me, he seemed right at home in his signature role. The cast is solid enough to make a good TOS crew, but they do need some decent writing to realize their full potential.

 

[T'Bonz]

Mixed emotions. I enjoyed it and had a great time watching it (and nitpicking it to death,) but some of the events just SUCKED.

There are good things and there are bad things. At the end of the day, I want to see more.

But it's a sadder Trek universe for me.

 

[Albertese]

C'mon guys, lets get real here. TOS has not been washed away. I can still pop in my DVD's and watch any of the original 80 I want to. I watched "The Empath" just the other night. And TNG and the rest are still here too. I checked. I was home sick the other day and I watched "Family" and "Brothers". (Not a in a particularly sentimental mood, just started out with season 4) Now, granted, we won't be getting any more new stories in that continuity but hey, significant cast members have departed our mortal lands and I'm afraid that new adventures featuring our beloved crew in their original faces won't be that fun, given that some of them are knocking on 90's door. That and the fact that modern Trek in the old continuity has been beat to death by it's more recent handlers. If Insurrection and Nemesis weren't bad enough, Enterprise made sure the coffin was nailed tight shut. I'm not saying there aren't any good episodes in the later shows, just that as things went on, the overall caliber sputtered off and died out. As a die-hard trekkie, I've been saying to my buddies that Star Trek ought to be put down since 2002. And it very much was.

This new movie is a REBOOT! Let's dispense with any fantasy that this story dovetails in any way with TOS. It is no more a follow-on to TOS than Casino Royale was a sequel to Never Say Never Again. It is a totally different universe. It's debatable wether or not Spock Prime is to native our beloved Trek universe or not.

That said, I loved it. Yes, there was a lot that was goofy about this film, but, darn it! It as an enjoyable movie! And it's not like this is the first trek movie that had some goofy little gaffs. Or for that matter, major ones. It's the eleventh!

It was a cinematic spectacle. It had entertaining characters. It had a lot of fun. If anything, I thought the one-liners cribbed from the original series were a little heavy handed. But overall, they all made me smile. In short, I loved it!

--Alex

 

[Scarpad]

C'mon guys, lets get real here. TOS has not been washed away. I can still pop in my DVD's and watch any of the original 80 I want to. I watched "The Empath" just the other night. And TNG and the rest are still here too. I checked. I was home sick the other day and I watched "Family" and "Brothers". (Not a in a particularly sentimental mood, just started out with season 4) Now, granted, we won't be getting any more new stories in that continuity but hey, significant cast members have departed our mortal lands and I'm afraid that new adventures featuring our beloved crew in their original faces won't be that fun, given that some of them are knocking on 90's door. That and the fact that modern Trek in the old continuity has been beat to death by it's more recent handlers. If Insurrection and Nemesis weren't bad enough, Enterprise made sure the coffin was nailed tight shut. I'm not saying there aren't any good episodes in the later shows, just that as things went on, the overall caliber sputtered off and died out. As a die-hard trekkie, I've been saying to my buddies that Star Trek ought to be put down since 2002. And it very much was.

This new movie is a REBOOT! Let's dispense with any fantasy that this story dovetails in any way with TOS. It is no more a follow-on to TOS than Casino Royale was a sequel to Never Say Never Again. It is a totally different universe. It's debatable wether or not Spock Prime is to native our beloved Trek universe or not.

That said, I loved it. Yes, there was a lot that was goofy about this film, but, darn it! It as an enjoyable movie! And it's not like this is the first trek movie that had some goofy little gaffs. Or for that matter, major ones. It's the eleventh!

It was a cinematic spectacle. It had entertaining characters. It had a lot of fun. If anything, I thought the one-liners cribbed from the original series were a little heavy handed. But overall, they all made me smile. In short, I loved it!

--Alex

Then why did'nt the producer's just do that, no Time travel, no alternate timeline, no Spock Prime, just reboot from scratch. No it's because they wanted the old timers to come, even if they were gonna say screw you to them, they wanted and still needed them.

 

[chardman]

Watched TOS first run on NBC in the 60s. I'm pretty much a life-long fan. While I disagree with a few, primarily cosmetic changes, I really enjoyed Trek XI, and can't wait for the next one.

And I'm pretty much a TOS only sort of Trek fan. I lost interest in all the spin-offs pretty early on. As far as I'm concerned, Star Trek is TOS alone, and all the rest has been little more than studio-sanctioned fan-fic.

As far as I'm concerned, Trek XI is TOS.

 

[scottydog]

The movie was spectacular, exceeding my wildest expectations.

 

[Tikkun]

Watched TOS first run on NBC in the 60s. I'm pretty much a life-long fan. While I disagree with a few, primarily cosmetic changes, I really enjoyed Trek XI, and can't wait for the next one.

I agree.

Someone in another thread said it was a weird sensation watching Quanto, and buying his as Spock, while at the same time aware that he wasn't. I can relate to that. In fact, I found this one of the more enjoyable movies.

However, I am wrapped in a snug cocoon of AU/AT reality - I can enjoy only because i am completely sure that this is not my TOS universe. It's a video fan story - a reworking for a different generation. I can thoroughly love the movie, and still say it wasn't nearly as good as watching TOS when I was a lot younger during that first run in the 60's.

None of my DVDs have been erased - I checked.

 

[Amaris]

I loved it.


J.

 

[Supervisor 194]

This is what I wanted back in '79--a film version of the tv show. The ages of the actors back then precluded that, and while I love TWOK and TUC, this is the first movie to actually evoke the tv show that started it all.

This movie had a scope that has never been attempted before, and succeeded admirably. I saw Kirk, Spock, etc. and recognized them as the same characters I loved from TOS with a bit of a new polish. Frankly I was surprised (and thrilled) with how much of TOS they kept--I'm not talking about 'canon' but about the heart of the show, which they got right.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I loved the film. It made me feel the excitement I had when I was four-years old, sitting in front of the family's old, wood-panel Zenith television set, watching reruns of TOS while holding my Mego action figures.

 

[SellusGravius]

I haven't seen nearly enough of TOS to have as good of an opinion as you guys... But i will post anyway.

I enjoyed the movie, however it did kind of irk me slightly that everything is different now... However i am actually glad about the way they explained it, at least they didn't just change everything without any explanation. And yeah, i guess they can now reinvent the series however the heck they want and attract a younger generation of audience.