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What do you consider to be the Prime Timeline?

Timeline A: TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, LD, PRO, and the first ten movies
Timeline B: Disco, SNW and all Short Treks except “Children of Mars”
Timeline C: Kelvin movies
Timeline D: Very Short Treks

“The Cage”, “Children of Mars”, PIC, LD and PRO can be in either Timeline A or Timeline B.

ENT leads to all timelines.
 
They won't dare admit it during this production era but for the next production era, they'll 100% go full-on into the multiverse route. From what I can tell, that seems to be the general direction everything's moving in, across franchises. More and more, there are entries that ignore other entries within the same franchise.
Star Trek is also pretty unique in being both primarily TV series based and not originating from novels or comic books, and with a clear dividing line between said TV series plus films being canonical while novels and comic books are not (well, minus what may have been said at the time of publication of the Jeri Taylor VGR novels or the ST09 Countdown prequel, all of which didn't last).

DC and Marvel efforts are by necessity far more... multiversal. Something like Law & Order or the CSIs or the NCISes are all based in the current day real world, so their continuity problems would mostly be limited to keeping character backstories straight. Star Wars, Terminator, and Alien are all primarily film based with TV series off shoots.

Stargate franchise backdoor rebooted the inspiring film and then managed to make 18(!) connected seasons. But if Amazon ever moves forward with doing anything with that franchise, would it do a reboot or a continuation? X-Files is of similar heft if you throw in MILLENNIUM and THE LONE GUNMEN, and again would fall under if Disney moves forward with Ryan Coogler, would it be a reboot or continuation.

If anything, it's quite remarkable Star Trek made it from 1966 all the way until 2009 without some kind of reboot. Had Harve Bennet managed to get his SFA film made (or with his TV background somehow tried and succeeded in making a SFA TV series) it might have come far sooner.

I think it’s in the commentary to First Contact but I remember Brannon Braga and Ron Moore spend some time advocating a total reboot of Trek, and that’s 20 years of Trek lore ago too. Their argument was the timeline had basically become too complex and detailed to remain coherent while also boxing in a writer’s ability to make choices about a story. That you shouldn’t have to wonder whether something violates a line of dialogue from season 2 of TOS or season 4 of DS9 if you’re trying to write a Star Trek story. Also, the timeline is a double-edged sword. For some it’s a rich fictional future history that adds depth to the story. But, for others, it might make Trek seem hard to jump into. If in order to totally understand an episode of Strange New Worlds, I need to have watched Star Trek V to know who Sybok is, some people might think that’s a problem.
This would make sense in the 1990s when they had to knock out sometimes 52 new episodes a year and didn't have easy access to web databases. But now it's only really an issue if they are already going back to a pre-established time period and not fitting everything in. If they move forward, or just create a new species instead of radically altering something already established, they're bound to run into issues.

If anything, it's probably better not to have too deep a knowledge of Star Trek to enjoy SNW. Otherwise you'd keep running into red herrings. The analogy I've used before would be watching a film or TV series set in a country you'd lived in, but the producers hadn't. Too many things would just be off or outright wrong and knock you out of the narrative.

I have friends IRL who are interested in watching Star Trek but think it's impenetrable. I'll have to guide them through it. I figure I'll show them TOS, show them TNG, show them all the movies, not necessarily in that order (I myself started off with the movies), but that's what they're already aware of through Pop Culture anyway...
Star Trek definitely needs curation. Luckily, the 80/20 rule applies, and since most of everything was episodic, it's not too much a problem with an assist.

That said, several friends have tried to get me into anime series, some of which have over 500 episodes. I've always argued that's just too ~much~, but one response that did make me stop and think was, well, what if you really like it? Then you have tons and tons of material to enjoy.
 
well, minus what may have been said at the time of publication of the Jeri Taylor VGR novels or the ST09 Countdown prequel, all of which didn't last).
It's actually a myth that Jeri Taylor's Voyager novels were ever considered canon. Pocket Books themselves have always maintained that they were not canon. The only source which ever claimed they were was StarTrek.com back in the early 2000s, but according to people In The Know, the person who wrote that up simply made a mistaken assumption based on the fact the books were written by the show's co-creator and that that did not in fact reflect official policy at the time.

As for the Countdown comic, that was never intended to be canon. The idea that it was comes from the infamous Trekmovie interview in which Orci was goaded and manipulated into saying the phrase "comics are canon" just so they could have a soundbite of him calling comics canon to generate a clickbait article around.
 
Now someone do how Star Wars pre-2015 handled their novels, comics, and games, with, what... A-Canon, G-Canon, etc?
 
Star Trek definitely needs curation. Luckily, the 80/20 rule applies, and since most of everything was episodic, it's not too much a problem with an assist.
There's a non-zero chance of this actually happening, so I'll start with "best of" episodes and, if they're hooked, we'll go through all of (or most of) both series.

I figure if they've seen TOS and TNG, then they'll have no problem being able to follow any of the other series.

That said, several friends have tried to get me into anime series, some of which have over 500 episodes. I've always argued that's just too ~much~, but one response that did make me stop and think was, well, what if you really like it? Then you have tons and tons of material to enjoy.
None of the anime series that I know of that are over 500 episodes interest me (including Gundam). All the stuff I like tends to have a much shorter run.

If you want an anime that's like Star Trek, my recommendation is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's only 110 episodes, it's a huge Space Opera, and is regarded as one of the best anime of the '80s and '90s. It's hard to come by, but you can catch the first two episodes on YouTube, and the whole of it is available on Hidive. It's only ever been subbed. But that's actually better. Most dubs tend to be crap. Yes, I'm one of those...

I recommend this show to anyone: If you like anime and you like Star Trek, you should give Legend of the Galactic Heroes a shot.
 
There’s that one scene at the beginning of that one early Deep Space Nine episode: O’Brien is seen in his bed, waking up, looking at his watch, rubbing his eyes and then turning around to snooze for another couple of minutes before he has to get up. It’s not very well known, but this brief moment is actually the only instance in all of Star Trek that’s actually showing the original, completely unchanged, “prime” timeline. Everything else you know — every other scene, episode, season, show and movie — is actually set in an alternate, parallel, mirror or otherwise changed timeline that derives from that first pristine timeline with Miles sleeping.
"Keiko... You really should wear more sweaters."
Conversely, the Christopher Nolan Batman films greatly expand the lore of the characters from the Adam West ‘60’s Batman TV show without actually claiming that they are the same characters or take place in the same continuity.
Well, the Joker wears the same mask in both, at any rate. ;)

Personally, I consider TOS to be the only "real" Trek at this point. The movies rewrote TOS to a degree (the "positively grim", "stack of books with legs" Kirk cheated at the Academy! Khan was genetically engineered instead of a product of eugenics!), TNG/DS9/VOY even more so (Kirk's crew would be drummed out of Starfleet today! Scotty commonly lied about his repair estimates!), ENT took that tendency even further (There was a another Enterprise 100 years before Kirk! Starfleet is older than the Federation!), and the Kelvin movies, DSC and SNW have done SO much overwriting that at this point, TOS is the odd man out in the franchise it started.

And like @Lord Garth, how much I like the subsequent shows and how much I think they jibe with TOS are two separate things. SNW is my favorite Trek show since DS9, but I still don't entirely buy it as a prequel to TOS. So in my mind, SNW takes place in a parallel universe to TOS. At most, I think that some events not unlike SNW happened in the TOS Timeline.

In other words, when I watch TOS, Nurse Chapel is a woman with a hopeless unrequited crush on Mr. Spock. And when I watch SNW, Nurse Chapel is currently Spock's ex-girlfriend who broke up with him after a brief relationship. But while I consider these two versions of Christine Chapel to be pretty irreconcilable with each other, I think the backstories of TOS Pike and Number One are fairly similar to their SNW counterparts. The TOS versions just took place in a more Forbidden Planet/"The Cage" looking version of the 2250s, where Pike and Number One served with Dr. Phil Boyce instead Dr. M'Benga, Uhura didn't serve on the Enterprise as a cadet, and there was no security officer by the name of La'an Noonien-Singh. Oh, and TOS Spock is an only child who never had an adoptive human sister named Michael Burnham or an emotional Vulcan half-brother named Sybok. :)

Yeah, it's double think to a degree, but it keeps me from going nuts whenever SNW does something that either doesn't fit with my headcanon or outright contradicts TOS.

I also think that the John Munch we saw on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit is the Earth-Two version of the John Munch we saw on Homicide: Life on the Street. I'll go into more detail on this in my eventual film Crisis on Infinite Munches: Into the Belzerverse. ;)
 
Too late.

I do.

And I enjoy it.
Some trends are generalizable, but need not apply to every single individual taste. And this need not apply to just Star Trek. I'm not able to watch a series set in a city I lived in but was filmed in a different region / country. Unless they really tried, the "continuity errors" would just kill any verisimilitude.

There's a non-zero chance of this actually happening, so I'll start with "best of" episodes and, if they're hooked, we'll go through all of (or most of) both series.

I figure if they've seen TOS and TNG, then they'll have no problem being able to follow any of the other series.
With so much new content produced since streaming took off, human recommendations are ever more important anyway. Especially with the opportunity cost of investing in a series you aren't likely to enjoy when there's so much else out there.

If you want an anime that's like Star Trek, my recommendation is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's only 110 episodes, it's a huge Space Opera, and is regarded as one of the best anime of the '80s and '90s. It's hard to come by, but you can catch the first two episodes on YouTube, and the whole of it is available on Hidive. It's only ever been subbed. But that's actually better. Most dubs tend to be crap. Yes, I'm one of those...
Thanks, is on the list!

Speaking of trying out new things, are you liking A24's film lineup?
 
The dude above you just answered your question…
I'm not a theoretical physicist. I just know that Boimler didn't bat an eye when he stepped onto the Enterprise. Everything was exactly as he expected it to look. Plus, we have this poster appearing in your prime timeline.
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There's a non-zero chance of this actually happening, so I'll start with "best of" episodes and, if they're hooked, we'll go through all of (or most of) both series.

I figure if they've seen TOS and TNG, then they'll have no problem being able to follow any of the other series.


None of the anime series that I know of that are over 500 episodes interest me (including Gundam). All the stuff I like tends to have a much shorter run.

If you want an anime that's like Star Trek, my recommendation is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's only 110 episodes, it's a huge Space Opera, and is regarded as one of the best anime of the '80s and '90s. It's hard to come by, but you can catch the first two episodes on YouTube, and the whole of it is available on Hidive. It's only ever been subbed. But that's actually better. Most dubs tend to be crap. Yes, I'm one of those...

I recommend this show to anyone: If you like anime and you like Star Trek, you should give Legend of the Galactic Heroes a shot.
I see the whole series on Amazon Prime, but it says "currently unavailable." That may change at some point.
 
Mostly false. I don't know of a single person watching (and enjoying!) SNW that wasn't already big into Star Trek.
It's like claiming kids are the biggest readers of superhero comics. It's almost all of us old folk.
Ok, I found an old post I made about this from a year ago and copy/paste it here...

SNW falls into the uncanny valley of being both too close and too different from what came before. It being "closer to the spirit of Star Trek" or what have you actually makes it far more difficult for me to watch with prior knowledge of the franchise (than DISCOVERY season 1).

To give a real life hypothetical... Imagine you lived for several years in, say, Brazil, and really came to know the culture, how people would react in different social situations, the geography. And you have a TV show set in Brazil. The showrunners are a Portuguese, a Mexican, and an Argentinian, and they have a Brazilians along as low level writers and consultants that are sometimes listened to and other times overridden because of... whatever. Some things they manage to get right, others they massively mess up. Regional accents in the wrong places. Getting the football fan thing all wrong. Confusing the culture on the coast with that of the interior. What they think of as foreshadowing half the times turns into accidental red herrings or outright errors. No matter how awesome the series taken on its own terms is, anyone with deep knowledge of Brazil would be driven to frustration, and soon would hit a breaking point.

And I just can't get over the incessant quips or how unprofessional the crew is anyway, so... when I have over 100 series and films on my to watch list, life is too short for unwatchable Star Trek.
 
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Star Trek has always had unprofessional conduct. This is not anything new to SNW or the modern era. I mean, where do you start? McCoy was always leaving sickbay just to hang out on the bridge and crack racist jokes about Spock. Data once did a goofy Sherlock Holmes impersonation at an official briefing discussing the death of an officer on the ship. Chief O'Brien once brought his baby with him to Ops, distracting the rest of the Ops crew from doing their jobs. Harry Kim once played his clarinet while in command of the bridge, and continued to do so when a higher ranking officer (Tuvok) showed up. Trip Tucker once attempted mutiny and sabotage simply because he didn't understand what it was T'Pol was attempting to do.

And all that's just the tip of the iceberg. Starfleet has never been known for its professionalism.
 
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