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What direction should Bond go in from here?

Direction of the Bond franchise post-QOS

  • Back to the gadgets and series cliches/staples

    Votes: 21 35.0%
  • Keep going in the new direction

    Votes: 39 65.0%

  • Total voters
    60
My favorite scene from Tomorrow Never Dies, it is cool and funny

TND's carpark chase was better paced, more intricate and memorable than the opening car chase from Quantum of Solace, that's for sure.
I agree, though the new movie's car chase scene would have been a lot better if I could actually tell what was going on. Like all of Batman Begins' fight scenes and so a certain extent The Dark Knight, the whole car chase scene was way to fast in the new Bond film

After watching the movie a second time I can say the car chase isn't that confusing, even though it's edited too closely. It's much more tense than seeing Bond sitting in the back seat of a BMW giggling while we watch him PLAY WITH A CELL PHONE! I'd much rather see Craig in an Aston with it's door ripped off as he forces an Alfa off a cliff.

Another thing too is the innuendo has matured. It's like grown people flirting in these films. The audience laughs when he walks into his suite and says to Strawberry Fields, "I can't seem to find the...stationery. Can you help me look?" And then he takes off his suspenders. Great moment. Much more sexy and flirtatious than the classic (and classless) "I thought Christmas only came once a year."
 
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Personally, I would have preferred doing away with the traditional gun barrel sequence altogether and always doing what Casino Royale did for its gun barrel sequence:

Then that would make the last two films even less of Bond films than they are already. Maybe to make the next Bond film an official Bourne film, Bond could say 'I remember.....I remember everything M'


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I do not mind it in near future Craig movies had big secret lairs similar to the one from the 60s and 70s, so long as the character depth and darkness in the story hasn't been compromised.

The ice palace from DAD didn't really work because not only was it impractical to a certain extent and rather cheesy, but the Icelandic lair itself (and the Icarus satellite) didn't ever seem to be within the means of a rogue North Korean army major on the run, even if he was living beyond his official wages on conflict diamonds in the PTS. But a sprawling secret lair complete with a super weapon and private army guarding it would feasibly be within the means of the mammoth Quantum syndicate, if it has major government and corporate links, and it could played as reasonably straight as in the original Fleming novel, Dr. No.
 
TND's carpark chase was better paced, more intricate and memorable than the opening car chase from Quantum of Solace, that's for sure.
I agree, though the new movie's car chase scene would have been a lot better if I could actually tell what was going on. Like all of Batman Begins' fight scenes and so a certain extent The Dark Knight, the whole car chase scene was way to fast in the new Bond film

After watching the movie a second time I can say the car chase isn't that confusing, even though it's edited too closely. It's much more tense than seeing Bond sitting in the back seat of a BMW giggling while we watch him PLAY WITH A CELL PHONE!
That was what was funny, what the last two films lack a lot. Also, he was hiding from gun fire that came through, made perfect sense to use the remote cell phone since that is one of the gadgets it is used for, another thing the last two movies are missing, the gadgets, Tomorrow Never Dies did it right
 
Personally, I would have preferred doing away with the traditional gun barrel sequence altogether and always doing what Casino Royale did for its gun barrel sequence:

Then that would make the last two films even less of Bond films than they are already. Maybe to make the next Bond film an official Bourne film, Bond could say 'I remember.....I remember everything M'


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I see that now, sorry
 
Well, other agreed it made no sense, there were a lot of wtf's

Then you and the others you saw it with were clearly not paying attention to the thematic content of this film and its immediate predecessor, because they really couldn't have been more obvious about their creative intent if they had hit the audience over the head whilst shouting, "WE'RE! *THWAP!* PUTTING! *THWAP!* IN! *THWAP!* THE! *THWAP!* GUNBARREL! *THWAP!* SHOT! *THWAP!* AT! *THWAP!* THE! *THWAP!* END! *THWAP!* AS! *THWAP!* A! *THWAP!* WAY! *THWAP!* OF! *THWAP!* SAYING! *THWAP!* THAT! *THWAP!* HE! *THWAP!* IS! *THWAP!* NOW! *THWAP!* THE! *THWAP!* JAMES! *THWAP!* BOND! *THWAP!* WE'RE! *THWAP!* ALL! *THWAP!* FAMILIAR! *THWAP!* WITH! *THWAP!*"

Which, again, you may or may not agree with. Personally, I would have preferred doing away with the traditional gun barrel sequence altogether and always doing what Casino Royale did for its gun barrel sequence: Having a pre-titles action sequence that is in some way thematically relevant to the story and always ending it with someone trying to shoot Bond but him shooting them first, jump cutting into the POV of the shooter as he dies before dissolving to the title sequence.

But even if you don't agree with it, it makes perfect sense and there's no good reason to be confused.
I did understand it, but in order to be Bond 22, it made no sense

No, it did make sense, because they had a specific meaning behind it. It only makes no sense if you refuse to let go of the idea that it must always be a way of introducing the pre-title action sequence.
 
I liked Casino Royale but I admit the newest direction sucks, the last movie was almost as bad as some of the worst Bond films

There is too much cultural nonsense holding the film series back, are they ready to evolve and accept Chow Yun-Fat as Agent Bond?

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No, for the sane reason that Bond is a European of Scots/French desent, and having him be black or Asian would just be as bad as having Jim West of The Wild, Wild West be a black man, or Liz Allen be a Latina. And all that will do is create a controversy for no good reason.
 
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