what color is Bashir's medical uniform supposed to be?

[Therin of Andor]

That Spock uniform above... Has it turned pink over time or is it a case of lighting again?

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"These mauve-colored costumes were long a mystery, since no uniforms on 'Star Trek: The Original Series' had this unusual color. Some speculated that they might have been unused prototypes for cadet uniforms or that they might have been intended for use if the original series had gone to a fourth season. The real answer proved equally intriguing. Recent comparison of these mauve costumes to fabric samples from the same time period has demonstrated that identically-dyed blue cloth can, indeed, fade to this mauve color. In other words, these costumes were once the same color as Spock's blue shirts, and they were indeed made for the 'Star Trek' pilot episodes."

 

[Richard S. Ta]

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"These mauve-colored costumes were long a mystery, since no uniforms on 'Star Trek: The Original Series' had this unusual color. Some speculated that they might have been unused prototypes for cadet uniforms or that they might have been intended for use if the original series had gone to a fourth season. The real answer proved equally intriguing. Recent comparison of these mauve costumes to fabric samples from the same time period has demonstrated that identically-dyed blue cloth can, indeed, fade to this mauve color. In other words, these costumes were once the same color as Spock's blue shirts, and they were indeed made for the 'Star Trek' pilot episodes."

Thank you. Fascinating.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Especially the dyes of the 1960s. Signage in the 2018 "Batman '66" exhibit at The Hollywood Museum in LA explained that early fabric dyes sat on the outside of lengths of fabric - and after laundering the fibres would twist and eventually show lesser-dyed sides of each thread. The dye appears to "fall off". Modern dyes permeate the threads and are less likely to change colour over time. They had the original Batman and Robin TV costumes beside modern screen-accurate recreations. And, of course, the recreations looked much better in the displays.

Ah, found the quote, probably by curator, Wally Wingert:
"Unlike dyes of today which alter the fundamental molecules of the fabric to achieve a specific color, the dyes of the 60s simply "coated" the material with color. This allowed the fabric to fade rapidly as the coating wore off, which is why the material on this original Batman costume looks almost "berry" colored."

 

[kkt]

The Making of Star Trek said that the ship's laundry machines broke clothes down into their constituent fibers and then reconstituted them. In a Discovery episode, we saw a uniform being assembled on a molecular level, which seemed to be a variation on the same basic concept.

Although we're already developing fabrics that resist getting dirty in the first place, or that self-clean.

I do remember that line from The Making of Star Trek... however Star Trek never chose to present that in an episode, I don't think. And even with enormous amounts of power available on the ship, that still seems like a pretty inefficient way of cleaning clothes.

 

[gweeps]

Teal?

 

[Feltman_Langer]

As sharing images here is so bloody difficult
Pantone 19-4524 TCX 'Shaded Spruce'

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lsI0A3wRoAm0wQR57s2DN-cAdwSpj2d5/view?usp=sharing

 

[Therin of Andor]

I do remember that line from The Making of Star Trek... however Star Trek never chose to present that in an episode, I don't think. And even with enormous amounts of power available on the ship, that still seems like a pretty inefficient way of cleaning clothes.

Kirk demonstrated spray ‘n’ wear clothing on the Ilia Probe in the sonic shower, ST:TMP.

 

[gweeps]

Man, those uniforms in TMP are godawful. Possibly the worst.

 

[Christopher]

I do remember that line from The Making of Star Trek... however Star Trek never chose to present that in an episode, I don't think.

As I said, they pretty much did demonstrate it in Discovery. And Therin has a point about the TMP sonic shower, though I think that was meant to be a transporter effect.

And even with enormous amounts of power available on the ship, that still seems like a pretty inefficient way of cleaning clothes.

You could say the same about putting dirty dishes in the replicator to be dematerialized. Or continuously expending power to generate a force field across a brig door rather than just having a locked door there. Sci-fi futurism is about cool stuff, not efficiency!!