What Changes Would You Like To See In Metamorphosis?
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The space scenes definately, but altering the Companion would be difficult.
Yes they did. I thought the landing craft in FC was a sublight equivalent of a shuttle.
ST:FC as such didn't tell whether Vulcans knew how to warp or not - it only told that Vulcans would recognize a warp signature if they saw one.
But if they didn't have a warp-equivalent drive, it would make no sense for them to be passing through the Sol system. With propulsion systems lesser than warp, you don't pass through systems that don't interest you - you take the straightest route, which statistically never intersects any star systems other than the startpoint and endpoint.
I don't think the dialogue of "Metamorphosis" is too badly at odds with the idea that everybody but humans had warp drive before Cochrane invented it. The whole episode is hyper-chauvinist anyway; a bit of extra chauvinism for Old Earth and Her Mighty Inventor of the Already Elsewhere Invented would fit right in.
Timo Saloniemi
But if they didn't have a warp-equivalent drive, it would make no sense for them to be passing through the Sol system. With propulsion systems lesser than warp, you don't pass through systems that don't interest you - you take the straightest route, which statistically never intersects any star systems other than the startpoint and endpoint.
I don't think the dialogue of "Metamorphosis" is too badly at odds with the idea that everybody but humans had warp drive before Cochrane invented it. The whole episode is hyper-chauvinist anyway; a bit of extra chauvinism for Old Earth and Her Mighty Inventor of the Already Elsewhere Invented would fit right in.
Timo Saloniemi
Perhaps there's a difference between Vulcan FTL drive and Cochrane's drive. The Vulcans (and others) explored their neighborhood pretty well, but Cohrane's discovery opened up the whole galaxy. As I recall, Cochrane is credited with discovering "the space warp" in this episode, not "warp drive".
There is obviously a lot they could do with the shuttle getting hijacked and landing on the planet. Maybe some visuals on the planet surface, it was one of the better uses of the "planet" sound-stage though, with clouds being blown in and other out of the ordinary stuff.
Well, needless to say the shots of the Companion intercepting the shuttlecraft in deep space and enveloping it are going to be redone, so I'd expect the Companion down on the surface of the planetoid to be tweaked a little, too, to more closely match the appearance of the new CGI Companion in space.
Forbin, normally I'd agree with you but the Planet Companion is one of Star Trek's worst effects. It would be wonderful if it could become unlocked from the camera pans but I doubt that will happen. By adding to the Planet Companion effect, maybe that can be fudged.
I'd say do what you can here, CBS Digital. I hope they can make the Companion more believable. As it is now, the effect is so bad it always takes me out of the story.
I'd say do what you can here, CBS Digital. I hope they can make the Companion more believable. As it is now, the effect is so bad it always takes me out of the story.
At least the effects should be consistent. Perhaps it looks bad because the Companion does not have much of its energy in the visual range?
It would be reasonable if it looked a little different in an atmosphere than in space.
And it should look basically the same, or the sight gag of the possessed commissioner looking through her scarf is lost.
And it should look basically the same, or the sight gag of the possessed commissioner looking through her scarf is lost.
I'd like to see an new CGI aerial shot of Cochrane's makeshift compound. Maybe show a few leftover bits and pieces of his old 22nd century ship...the nacelles or whatever that he didn't cannibalize to construct his new home and just left lying around for scrap metal and components.
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