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What Changes Would You Like To See For "Shore Leave"?

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AC84

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Literary icons like Don Juan and Alice chasing the white rabbit into Wonderland are all up next on the chopping block. What are your blasphemous desires? A CGI rabbit vocied by Eddie Murphy? The amusement park planet caretaker will manufacture all your dreams come true.

For me, I wish they could finally follow John D.F. Black's advice get rid of the "twirly whirly" antenna. Or replace it. But appearantly that's not going to happen. In that case, I really....REALLY hope they can at least wash out the chain around the tiger's neck in the one shot we see it. It took me out of the episode when I first saw it 8 years ago, and it still takes me out today. That's my one wish.
 
Well, most of the changes i can think of have already been altered.

The antennea looked crap then and still does today. If i was ti change that, i would reshoot a new scene of the antenae emerging. however, what it would look like i can only imagine...

It wouldnt be a dish, thats Sci-fi cliche hell. I'd have it just looking other-worldly, to coin a phrase, something that doesnt look like a £1 tv ariel.

The tigers chain, yeah, id go for that to be cleaned up too.
 
Amazing how a person's perception of these episodes changes over time. When I was a kid I thought " Shore Leave! That's a dumb episode. No spaceship battles or anything. *yawn* Let's watch Gilligan's Island instead."

Now, I just can't wait to see Emily Banks in all her 1960's splendor. She was amazing.
 
-Replace tiger with Vulcan sehlat.

-Replace rabbit with Roger Rabbit

-Replace Kirk's old flame with Jessica Rabbit

-Replace old caretaker guy with Bob Barker.

-Replace old fighter planes with Klingon Birds of Prey, how kewl :cool: would that be?
 
Well, a BIG obvious would be the stock footage of the WWII piston-driven plane attacking the crew. It's not only outdated, but one second it's a Japanese Zero...the next a U.S. Navy dive bomber...it just sucks. Create an all-new CGI plane to do a realistic looking strafing run.
 
Replacing the antenna would be a bit troublesome, especially when Kirk runs behind it. Even with todays CG effects and marvelous advances in rotoscoping, it's still a lot of work to get right, even if the remastering team had the time to even do it, which I'm assuming they didn't. What I suggest they do is something I just saw in a classic Doctor Who episode. Switch the antenna into a 'gunsight' tracking device and we watch the scene from the 'sniper looking through the sight' POV. This would allow the remastering team to create a CG version of Kirk with the details 'whited' out by the 'gunsights' screen. If anyone has no clue what I'm talking about, watch 'Doctor Who-Rememberance of the Daleks' where they have shots from the Daleks POV. That's the shot I'm referring to.
 
cooleddie74 said:
Well, a BIG obvious would be the stock footage of the WWII piston-driven plane attacking the crew. It's not only outdated, but one second it's a Japanese Zero...the next a U.S. Navy dive bomber...it just sucks. Create an all-new CGI plane to do a realistic looking strafing run.
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It was never a Zero. It was an AT-6 in the wide shots and a repainted Hellcat in the closeups. Both stock footage from some WWII movie or another. Since there were never any flyable Zeros (until the last decade when some have been restored), WWII movies always used an American aircraft repainted to simulate a Japanese plane.
 
doctorwho 03 said:
Replacing the antenna would be a bit troublesome, especially when Kirk runs behind it. Even with todays CG effects and marvelous advances in rotoscoping, it's still a lot of work to get right, even if the remastering team had the time to even do it, which I'm assuming they didn't. What I suggest they do is something I just saw in a classic Doctor Who episode. Switch the antenna into a 'gunsight' tracking device and we watch the scene from the 'sniper looking through the sight' POV. This would allow the remastering team to create a CG version of Kirk with the details 'whited' out by the 'gunsights' screen. If anyone has no clue what I'm talking about, watch 'Doctor Who-Rememberance of the Daleks' where they have shots from the Daleks POV. That's the shot I'm referring to.
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Yeah, i know what you mean. Fellow Who fan myself. :thumbsup: As if my avatar didnt give it away. :D

That would be a good idea though. Like i said in the 'uh oh screencaps' in Gen Trek, about changing the scene where Kirk changes from regular uniform to variant uniform in the same scene. someone asked can that be fixed in the Remastered episodes.

Anyway, my point was that even the BEST cgi is NOT that realistic for scenes like the one mentioned, and re-doing the shot with the Dalek-type eye point of view that you suggested would work because you can put a motion blur on the scene, thus eliminating the need for super realistic CGI. Even they use stock footage of Kirk and have him pass fast and new viewers, i doubt will notice.
 
Forbin said:
It was never a Zero. It was an AT-6 in the wide shots and a repainted Hellcat in the closeups. Both stock footage from some WWII movie or another. Since there were never any flyable Zeros (until the last decade when some have been restored), WWII movies always used an American aircraft repainted to simulate a Japanese plane.
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This is totally off topic, but as a war movie buff myself, I thought they had restored and used some actual Japanese Zeros when filming Tora! Tera! Tora! in 1970; as well as the TV series Ba Ba Blacksheep/The Blacksheep Squadron in 1978?
 
Forbin said:
cooleddie74 said:
Well, a BIG obvious would be the stock footage of the WWII piston-driven plane attacking the crew. It's not only outdated, but one second it's a Japanese Zero...the next a U.S. Navy dive bomber...it just sucks. Create an all-new CGI plane to do a realistic looking strafing run.
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It was never a Zero. It was an AT-6 in the wide shots and a repainted Hellcat in the closeups. Both stock footage from some WWII movie or another. Since there were never any flyable Zeros (until the last decade when some have been restored), WWII movies always used an American aircraft repainted to simulate a Japanese plane.
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Well...close enough.

It still looks wildly inconsistent and doesn't work. It needs to be changed, and I assume it has been to some extent we don't know for sure yet.
 
I'm confused as to what type of aircraft fighter should be shown. What kind of plane is described in the dialogue?
 
Noname Given said:
Forbin said:
It was never a Zero. It was an AT-6 in the wide shots and a repainted Hellcat in the closeups. Both stock footage from some WWII movie or another. Since there were never any flyable Zeros (until the last decade when some have been restored), WWII movies always used an American aircraft repainted to simulate a Japanese plane.
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This is totally off topic, but as a war movie buff myself, I thought they had restored and used some actual Japanese Zeros when filming Tora! Tera! Tora! in 1970; as well as the TV series Ba Ba Blacksheep/The Blacksheep Squadron in 1978?
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Nope. For Tora, they modified a bunch of AT-6s to look very much like Zeros (new cowl, new tail, new wingtips, new canopies - a LOT of work, really). The Vals and Kates were also modified from, I think BT-13 trainers. There were no real Jap planes at all in the movie. (And Tora Tora Tora was made looong after trek was cancelled anyway).

In the last couple of decades there have been a few Zeros restored and rebuilt, one or two to flying condition. I think Planes Of Fame Museum was one of the first.
 
AC84 said:
I'm confused as to what type of aircraft fighter should be shown. What kind of plane is described in the dialogue?
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Nothing specific at all! just "one of those funny air vehicles people used to use." No mention of type, period or nationality.
 
At least the old stock footage was of WWII fighter planes...could have been worse. We could have gotten a shot of the Wright Flyer strafing the Enterprise officers. :lol:
 
^^Or one of those famous bits of footage shown anytime anyone makes a documentary about powered flight.

Remember the thing that looked like a small car with a rotor that bounces spastically up and down? Or that plane with about ten wings stacked one over the other, Venetian Blind-style, that crumples in mid-taxi? Or the one that goes straight off the bridge into the drink?

Sir Rhosis
 
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