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What Changes Would You Have For "A Taste of Armageddon"?

I LOVE the episode, and it would benefit from some added orbital scenes, but that is not going to happen. I think I pretty much would be ok with the standard replacement shots, plus a new viewscreen for the planet HQ. For the first time I do NOT like the first episode image from TOS-R. I really wish an ALL NEW matte would have been created for Eminiar 7!!

RAMA
 
JUST saw it an hour or so ago.


(*Spoilers ahead*)









Not many changes all in all. There's a wonderful new reimagining of the Eminiar cityscape with more defined buildings with lights on, pedestrians walking about and a couple of monorail trains running between the buildings...the orbital shots of the Enterprise and planet are their typically sharp and marvelous selves, with the collective lights of the main cities and metropolises on Eminiar visible from orbit as yellowish glowing patches on the surface. But the war room computers remained completely untouched, and there are no shots of the Eminian weapons being fired upwards at the Enterprise in orbit. Also, there were no beams or rays added to the Eminian disruptor pistols when Kirk and company use them on the disintegration chambers. They remain totally unaltered.
 
Redfern said:

What?! No suggestion about including a Bird-of-Prey, "...'cause they're so kewl"? Mean Joe, you're slipping!

Yeah, well...some suggestions get beat into the ground, even :cool: kewl ones.


Oh, and on a totally different subject, where did you acquire your avatar? That has got to be just about the cutest kitten I've seen! I'd love to get a larger resolution of that image. It looks like the lil' thing is giggling from being tickled.

The image was a yahoo story about rare white tiger cubs being born somewhere (in captivity obviously). It was several months ago. That cute li'l thing is probably big enough to rip your face off now. ;)

I never saw a bigger version of it, actually. I may have shrunk mine down, but not much. I think I went back and even looked for a bigger version, but never found it.
 
MeanJoePhaser said:

The image was a yahoo story about rare white tiger cubs being born somewhere (in captivity obviously). It was several months ago. That cute li'l thing is probably big enough to rip your face off now. ;)

OH! It's a tiger cub?! At that resolution, I thought it was just a plain ol' kitten! Still doesn't detract from its cuteness factor (at that age anyway). Thanks for replying, MeanJoe'.

We now return this thread to the subject of "sanitized" warfare as parabled in "A Taste of Armageddon".

Sincerely,

Bill
 
Scotty says "We can't fire full phasers with our screens up..."

Since when have phasers been subject to either screens OR shielding? :confused:
 
Just that once, as a plot device.
Notice the ambassador still managed to beam down, even though Scotty refused to drop the screens. Not supposed to be able to do that either.
 
Kegek Kringle said:
Anyway, could CGI wizardry replace the nonsense idea of sonic weapons... in space?
Well, to be precise, the Eminiar folks talk about using disruptors, but don't specify how they work. It's Mister Why Aren't You Sulu who says the screens are being hit and the resulting sonic vibrations are a really bizarre 18 to the 12th decibels.

For the record 18 to the 12 decibels is approximately 1,156,831,381,426,176 decibels; every three decibels is roughly a doubling of power. That's still a vague measurement since a decibel doesn't mean something until you have a standard unit for what one decibel represents; that can be chosen for convenience of use. Still, even the smallest workable unit makes that a ... really ... enormous amount of power.

And if memory serves, isn't the 'star cluster' named in this episode actually another galaxy? I love this episode, but parts of it aren't exactly TOS's science on a good day, let's say. ;)
Details are surprisingly hard to find on a casual web search, and my impression is that a distance isn't precisely worked out. It looks like NGC 321 is approximately 65 million parsecs -- that is, about 200 million light-years -- away. Maybe Kirk is talking about another NGC.
 
Nebusj said:
It looks like NGC 321 is approximately 65 million parsecs -- that is, about 200 million light-years -- away. Maybe Kirk is talking about another NGC.

No, he was definitely talking about that one. I remember making a note of the star cluster and someone pointing out to me that this was a highly improbable one for that reason.

Incidentaly, cooleddie74, I'm glad to see they haven't added laser-beam effects to the weaponry. Their original omission was intentional, Eminian weapons were sonic - that is, they used sound.
 
How about an explanation for the fact that (at some point when Kirk's party are shooting at some Eminians), Ambassador Fox's aide suddenly crumples to the ground? :confused:

Not only that, but Fox LEAVES the guy there! He goes over to do a very cursory check, but then abandons him. :(
 
Yeah, he was hit in the firefight (soundfight?). But I've always thought it was pretty cold to leave him crumpled in a corner too
 
Fox does exhibit some worried concern after he dies. The problem is in that scene, well, it's a firefight where time is of the essence and they'te storming the government complex.

You don't stop to smell the roses or mourn dead colleagues in those circumstances.
 
Kegek Kringle said:
Nebusj said:
It looks like NGC 321 is approximately 65 million parsecs -- that is, about 200 million light-years -- away. Maybe Kirk is talking about another NGC.

No, he was definitely talking about that one. I remember making a note of the star cluster and someone pointing out to me that this was a highly improbable one for that reason.

Incidentaly, cooleddie74, I'm glad to see they haven't added laser-beam effects to the weaponry. Their original omission was intentional, Eminian weapons were sonic - that is, they used sound.

Perhaps so and yes...you can't SEE sound per se. But having a brief shot of the Enterprise lurching and shaking about as the waves pound the ship would have been neat.
 
Kegek Kringle said:
Nebusj said:
It looks like NGC 321 is approximately 65 million parsecs -- that is, about 200 million light-years -- away. Maybe Kirk is talking about another NGC.

No, he was definitely talking about that one. I remember making a note of the star cluster and someone pointing out to me that this was a highly improbable one for that reason.
No more improbably than having the Murasaki nebula from The Galileo Seven a "quasar-like formation". If we had a quasar in our neck of the Milky Way, Galileo himself would have discovered it, it would be so bright. Hell, the Babylonians would have discovered it. But this is all academic. If we had a local quasar, there probably wouldn't be any life on earth because of the radiation it would put out.
 
The existence of more bad science doesn't make the previous bad science less bad. ;)
 
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