What are your opinions regarding Star Trek that are, shall we say, unorthodox?

[BillJ]

But "No one likes their stories being turned into a joke," is a great point to make. If you can't take it seriously, stop making it.

A good question is where is the line between something being fun or a joke?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

A good question is where is the line between something being fun or a joke?

It's fun when the universe is serious and the characters are able to joke.
It's a joke when the universe is fun and the characters take it seriously.

On the William Shatner scale, fun is Star Trek II, a joke is Airplane II.

 

[Set Harth]

I want to nitpick about the Jedi robes being established back in Return of the Jedi by the force ghosts

The narrative often diverges from the reality.

 

[BillJ]

It's fun when the universe is serious and the characters are able to joke.
It's a joke when the universe is fun and the characters take it seriously.

On the William Shatner scale, fun is Star Trek II, a joke is Airplane II.

I don’t think the line is that clear cut.

 

[Farscape One]

PIC Season 2 somehow took the worst things about 21st century Star Trek productions and made them even dumber.

One of the reasons why it's the worst season in the entire franchise.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I don’t think the line is that clear cut.

Art is an art, not a science, so it's hard to really pin this stuff down in a way that works for every situation. Though I'm sure there are some great 1 hour YouTube videos on the subject I could hunt down if I'm ever curious to see what other people have come up with.

 

[bdub76]

(Though I actually really love a lot of Disney Star Wars, including Bad Batch, Mandalorian, the good bits of Andor etc.)

Some of the best Star Wars is the animated stuff.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Rios is way hotter than Riker. I don't know how unorthodox that is but I stand by it

 

[The Salt Umpire]

Some of the best Star Wars is the animated stuff.

So is Batman

 

[The Wormhole]

Didnt some WW3 novels have the Vulcan Mestral in them?

Mestral is featured in quite a few novels, though the only one which covers WWIII is, IIRC, TNG Hearts and Minds.

 

[bdub76]

So is Batman

Batman Beyond and Batman Animated both from the 90s are my favs.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

My unorthodox Star Trek opinion is that any animated Batman series or movie with Kevin Conroy's voice is typically going to be pretty good, and most of the ones without him are good too. I've been watching through them all recently and they rarely disappoint.

Though Batman: Caped Crusader was a bit 'off' to me somehow.

 

[CoveTom]

It's fun when the universe is serious and the characters are able to joke.
It's a joke when the universe is fun and the characters take it seriously.

On the William Shatner scale, fun is Star Trek II, a joke is Airplane II.

Although TWOK has one of my absolute favorite Trek jokes, when McCoy is distressed about potentially beaming into the unknown and Kirk tells him it will finally be his chance to get away from it all.

 

[Maurice]

For some reason these backdoor like pilots never take off. Supernatural tried two. One was supposed to be set in Chicago, and it never happened.

Never is a long time.

• The Danny Thomas Show → The Andy Griffith Show
• Magnum, P.I. → Simon & Simon
• The Golden Girls → Empty Nest

 

[Firebird]

Never is a long time.

• The Danny Thomas Show → The Andy Griffith Show
• Magnum, P.I. → Simon & Simon
• The Golden Girls → Empty Nest

And a few more:

• JAG → NCIS → NCIS: Los Angeles → NCIS: New Orleans → NCIS: Hawai'i → NCIS: New York
• Hercules: The Legendary Journeys → Xena: Warrior Princess
• All in the Family → Maude
• Happy Days → Mork & Mindy
• Empty Nest → Nurses

 

[cooleddie74]

The most famous failed backdoor pilot of them all:

Star Trek - Assignment: Earth

 

[DarrenTR1970]

And a few more:

• All in the Family → Maude

All In The Family - The Jefferson's, and Good Times.

Mary Tyler Moore - Rhoda and Lou Grant.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The Andy Griffith Show also led to Gomer Pyle USMC.

 

[cooleddie74]

Mary Tyler Moore - Rhoda and Lou Grant.

And Phyllis!

 

[fireproof78]

The Golden Girls → Empty Nest

And Nurses.