What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Yes because it prompts a reaction. Like wearing a ball cap sideways.
The cap would be edgier.
Jean-Luc didn't tell his dad he was leaving; Maurice had to hear it through the grapevine.
No. Search the 1000 threads on the subject.
It shouldn't act like a military or be used as a military by its government. Since it does those things it is a military.
As @Warp Core Breach said.... This topic is about 67,3% of all discussions on the forum. We really do not need another one.
It was clear that Seth MacFarlane patterned Orville's general core after TNG's vision of the future. I think he even mentioned that in some of the early interviews he did, thinking about "if I got a chance to run Star Trek, without it being Trek, how would I do it?" kind-of thing. I got the impression that most folks agreed that S1 was awesome. They didn't take themselves too seriously, they had good stories, snappy writing and cool characters. It even moved the needle on the Trek side when they (sloppily) tried to emulate this formula in DSC. The "Linus Sneeze" turbolift scene from the S2 premiere (that made it in literally every single trailer before S2 came out) was one of those ham-handed attempts that seemed to come out of nowhere if one wasn't paying attention. While certainly a funny scene, the parallels were painfully obvious and glaring.
Then Orville's S2 dropped, and all of a sudden it wasn't quite as "fun" anymore (that dreaded "F" word in sci-fi fandom that somehow diminishes a property's value in some people's eyes). They started smugly judging other species they come across, just like Picard, with all their "evolved sensibilities" bullshit - especially when dealing with the Krill and trying to get them into an alliance against the Kaylons (ummm... wasn't that originally "Cylons"?). "You people foolishly worship some false god (I mean, aren't they all, right?) so you just really aren't worth our time. ARM WEAPONS!" They just couldn't help themselves to fall into that same self-important rut. S3 was even worse, IMO.
So, great idea, but the people who ran it were just way too full of themselves. So yeah, hardly any difference between the two, in the end. Not controversial at all.
Hell, it's about the 20th time it's been brought up in this thread alone. Minimum.
The rebuttal, in brief..
- It has rank structure and hierarchy identical to real world Naval institutions.
- It has a chain of command, duty stations and the authority to use force when necessary.
- It has codes of conduct.
- It has court martials
- It's ships are heavily armed.
- Finally, and this is crucial - it fights wars.
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I am not sure talking about Star Trek in any form has ever passed as being edgy? I think you might be getting Trek mixed up with Boondock Saints.
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