Star Trek has had cringe dialog throughout its inception.
Newer Trek is not any worse at this than previous iterations.
It has all had cringe inducing dialogue and moments.
Star Trek has had cringe dialog throughout its inception.
Newer Trek is not any worse at this than previous iterations.
Star Trek is considered "Nerdier" than Star Wars.
Star Wars has had it's "Cringe Dialogue" moments as well, just not as many as us in Star Trek.
We're not the "Cool Sci-Fi Franchise" that Star Wars is in many people's eyes.
But that's only because it sits at the top of the Sci-Fi Media IP Franchise in terms of Popularity & Total Revenue.
Top 5 Sci-Fi Franchises:
1) Star Wars…≈ $46.70 Billion (_4th OverAll)
2) Star Trek … ≈ $11.20 Billion (32nd OverAll)
3) Halo ……… ≈ $_6.80 Billion (58th OverAll)
4) Avatar … … ≈ $_5.78 Billion (63rd OverAll)
5) Gundam … .≈ $_5.00 Billion (68th OverAll)
And there's no other major Sci-Fi Franchise in between that massive Gulf, and there's another Massive Gulf after Star Trek as well.
Everything else not listed is another IP in another Genre (see link above), so it's not a straight Apples to Apples comparison as compared to the others that are Sci-Fi IP's first.
I know, but would you classify the MCU as "Super Hero" IP or "Sci-Fi" IP?The MCU has done roughly $32 billion dollars in business just in theaters.
I know, but would you classify the MCU as "Super Hero" IP or "Sci-Fi" IP?
While MCU has Sci-Fi elements, it's not a dedicated Sci-Fi franchise IMO.
It's a "Super Hero" franchise with Sci-Fi & Magical elements in it's Lore/World Building.
It is no more or less science fiction than Wars or Trek.
It's science fiction to me. Sometimes has better tech development than Trek.I know, but would you classify the MCU as "Super Hero" IP or "Sci-Fi" IP?
While MCU has Sci-Fi elements, it's not a dedicated Sci-Fi franchise IMO.
It's a "Super Hero" franchise with Sci-Fi & Magical elements in it's Lore/World Building.
It's science fiction to me. Sometimes has better tech development than Trek.
Okay so we all have weird names.
Star Trek?
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Fair enoughIt's science fiction to me. Sometimes has better tech development than Trek.
You would think they would either create their own Slang for that future time period, or just avoid most slang all together.Problem with modern Trek dialogue is they relay to much on modern slang. I know Orville does as well to a degree but it's set in another universe and not one in line with the Prime timeline. It kind of takes you out of scene at times when someone talks as if they are from present day.
You would think they would either create their own Slang for that future time period, or just avoid most slang all together.
You would think they would either create their own Slang for that future time period, or just avoid most slang all together.
Battlestar Galactica (TOS) and Firefly both had excellent slang terms, which were generally obvious as to their meanings, and still able to get past the sanctimonious standards & practices people.Well the Klingons got some and Romulans have verual I think it is called but I wouldn't mind seeing some new futuristic human cusswords and slurs. Just make them feel sort like they would almost work today in order to be relatable. I am sorry but Nerf Herder is just not a kind of insult that people can relate to, if we were to take one from Star Wars.
Something like
Hole face
Waste Brain
Fluck
All Trek is of its day. Some slang stands out because we know it while others don't because we're too far removed on time.Problem with modern Trek dialogue is they relay to much on modern slang. I know Orville does as well to a degree but it's set in another universe and not one in line with the Prime timeline. It kind of takes you out of scene at times when someone talks as if they are from present day.
All Trek is of its day. Some slang stands out because we know it while others don't because we're too far removed on time.
The efforts are still there and I'm sure it can balance out. But, watching older contemporary productions of Star Trek makes it stand out more to me.But their was a effort in the past to try and avoid some of the obvious stuff. On "TOS" nobody was saying, Far Out and Groovy. Berman era is famous for over stylized speak and that is something I don't want to come back. I just wish they had more of a middle ground. Something that feels modern but is off just a little bit since the setting is the future.
They came close, at least visually, in The Way to Eden. Herbert!On "TOS" nobody was saying, Far Out and Groovy.
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