What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Tallguy]

It was also shown prominently at the end of Generations, shattered after the crash on Veridian III. So definitely not an indestructible part of the bridge structure. Looks like it was at least an inch thick, possibly more.
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That always bugged me. From the beginning of the film the various windows on the D provided motivated lighting. (Which was AMAZING!)

Then the bridge is dark during the crash and only lit by fire after the lights go out until they stop and we get this spotlight looking thing. They kind of make it seem like we're only getting light because the window is broken, don't they? It's a WINDOW. It should have been lighting the bridge during the whole descent.

Don't blame me! They made up the rules in the beginning of the movie!

It's much more believable lighting in the last scene when Picard and Riker beam up. Which I love.

OTOH, I just rewatched the crash scene and it. Is. Thrilling.

GEN is the best TNG movie.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Here we go again. Windows for ten pages.

Let’s have at it then.

GEN is the best TNG movie.

I think there’s actually a case to be made for this. I certainly think it’s far better than its reputation suggests.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

So value now depends on a window?

It looks good and compromised safety is a fascinating trade off.

The window helps serve the expectations and emotions of the audience. For 80s audiences for whom computers were exotic, seeing was a more important form of validation. In Generations, the broken window served the moment: it was close, but we can breath in some fresh air because the sun is shining on us.

 

[137th Gebirg]

That always bugged me. From the beginning of the film the various windows on the D provided motivated lighting. (Which was AMAZING!)

Then the bridge is dark during the crash and only lit by fire after the lights go out until they stop and we get this spotlight looking thing. They kind of make it seem like we're only getting light because the window is broken, don't they? It's a WINDOW. It should have been lighting the bridge during the whole descent.

Don't blame me! They made up the rules in the beginning of the movie!

It's much more believable lighting in the last scene when Picard and Riker beam up. Which I love.

OTOH, I just rewatched the crash scene and it. Is. Thrilling.

GEN is the best TNG movie.

While I wouldn't go quite so far as saying that GEN was the best TNG movie (I preferred FC overall, but GEN comes in at a strong second for me, despite Kirk's death), GEN definitely had the best lighting quality IMO, particularly the scene with Picard and Troi lamenting the death of his family in the fire back on Earth. The directed light cast through the windows from the Armagosa star throughout that entire sequence was brilliantly done. It was especially more impactful when the star was collapsing and the light smoothly dwindled into darkness. It showed a silent foreboding that rarely appears in Trek, before or since.

 

[Farscape One]

Jeez, an inch of glass between the Captain and the void.

Makes you shudder it does and no mistake, guvnor.

I suppose it’s some kind of special space-glass.

I believe it's transparent aluminum, which is pretty much what all the windows on the ship are made of.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I believe it's transparent aluminum, which is pretty much what all the windows on the ship are made of.

So, space-glass as I…

Googles mid-post.

Well, look at that.

Transparent aluminium is a real thing. Very cool.

 

[Tallguy]

The directed light cast through the windows from the Armagosa star throughout that entire sequence was brilliantly done.

It justified the whole look of the previous scenes. How often does TNG get to show, not tell?

 

[1001001]

While I wouldn't go quite so far as saying that GEN was the best TNG movie (I preferred FC overall, but GEN comes in at a strong second for me, despite Kirk's death), GEN definitely had the best lighting quality IMO, particularly the scene with Picard and Troi lamenting the death of his family in the fire back on Earth. The directed light cast through the windows from the Armagosa star throughout that entire sequence was brilliantly done. It was especially more impactful when the star was collapsing and the light smoothly dwindled into darkness. It showed a silent foreboding that rarely appears in Trek, before or since.

The look of the movie is just gorgeous.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

In terms of visual flair, no Trek movie beats Generations. It looks so classy, even 30 years later.

 

[cooleddie74]

I believe it's transparent aluminum, which is pretty much what all the windows on the ship are made of.

That's the ticket. #NotNowMadeline

 

[Farscape One]

In terms of visual flair, no Trek movie beats Generations. It looks so classy, even 30 years later.

Not bad for a first time theatrical release director. (David Carson, who did 4 TNG episodes and 5 DS9 ones, which is including the pilot.)

 

[Farscape One]

That's the ticket. #NotNowMadeline

Starfleet owes a great deal to Scotty...

 

[cooleddie74]

And Dr. Nichols quitting smoking by 1986.

 

[1001001]

Starfleet owes a great deal to Scotty...

A true miracle worker.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A true miracle worker.

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Inventor of the mousrophone.

 

[B.J.]

So, space-glass as I…

Googles mid-post.

Well, look at that.

Transparent aluminium is a real thing. Very cool.

Well, yes and no. There are real-world materials that are sometimes called transparent aluminum, but they have very different materials properties than the Trek version implies, which is more like standard aluminum, but transparent.

 

[Firebird]

The look of the movie is just gorgeous.

That's what happens when you've got John Alonzo, the cinematographer of Chinatown, behind the camera.

 

[kkt]

That's why I never understood the need for placing the bridge on top like a Maritime Ship out on the sea in current day.

We have Camera's & Sensors, bury the Bridge near the center of the vessel, where your "Main Computer" should be.

This way you make it harder to take out the Bridge and it's easier to armor it on all sides.

It also makes latency in communication with the Main Computer MUCH shorter since you would be physically near by.

I agree. Even in today's navies, the combat information center is many decks down and in the middle of the ship, and that's where the senior officers direct the operation of the ship. There is still a bridge on the top, but most of the time it's just used by lookouts and for docking maneuvers when visibility of the edges of the ship are crucial.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I agree. Even in today's navies, the combat information center is many decks down and in the middle of the ship, and that's where the senior officers direct the operation of the ship. There is still a bridge on the top, but most of the time it's just used by lookouts and for docking maneuvers when visibility of the edges of the ship are crucial.

In my 26th Century Head Canon for UFP / StarFleet StarShip designs.

The Apex Rooms on the Dorsal & Ventral sides are a combination of 10-Forward, Mess Hall, Coffee Shop, Gathering/Entertainment Lounge in a Toroidal shaped room.

Since there are 2x Rooms with dedicated massive entertainment places for many of the crew to meet up and have panoramic deck height tall windows into space, it allows seperate events to go on or one set of facilities to be used for regular meals and the other for more entertainment or scheduled events on board.

While the (Bridge/CIC) is buried near the center of the hull, this allows really nice social lounge areas with great views and the ability to split up the Torus as needed.

 

[TheAdmiralty]

GEN is the best TNG movie.

I think it could have been if it had just been a TNG movie. The Kirk stuff is such a red herring and feels so tacked on. They needed to use that screentime to flesh out the Nexus more which is really half baked as a concept and it brings the movie down. Also to get more into Picard's family anxieties besides one scene.