Most of the music in Star Trek: Picard Season 2 is actually quite depressing to listen to, so I always round off the end of my day after that long drive home with this Star Trek tune:
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Jeff Russo version works for me, but here is Frank Sanstras cover… doesn’t quite sound the same though….
Frank Sinatra is preferable. Not sure if that's a controversial opinion though...
I forgot about that, along with most of season 2, sad to say, er good to say. I don't think ive rewatched any of season 2 or 3 after the first time.I agree, this little number is actually one of my highlights of Star Trek: Picard season 2.
I often play this song as I am driving home at the end of a hard day.
Don’t forget about the endorphins….
I take your point. But given that they are so secret that they do not officially exist I think that is definitely pushing the viewer in a decided direction. Also explicitly tying them together as equivalent with the Klingon and Romulan (and Cardasian?) Super Secret (AND EVIL) Intelligence / Secret Police is a bit of a tell as well.
Section 31 wears out its welcome after the 22nd century organization appears in ENT.
She looked awesome in that red dress and combat boots, though.
"Neither confirm nor deny" doesn't mean "doesn't exist."
Like the Mirror Universe I don't mind them as story elements.
Like the Mirror Universe I don't mind them as story elements.
Everyone compares Section 31 to the Tal Shiar and the Obsidian Order, including Odo in the show itself, but the comparison is a flawed one, IMO. Domestic security is part of the mandate of both the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order, it's their job to monitor the Romulan and Cardassian citizens (respectively) in addition to their duties of conducting foreign intelligence. Section 31 isn't really about domestic security or foreign intelligence, their job is to identify and eliminate any threat to the Federation, regardless if it's foreign or domestic. So while they may not hesitate to send a strike team to deal with a Federation citizen who they feel pose a threat to the Federation, they aren't monitoring the citizenry on a regular basis to give someone a hard time for speaking unfavorably of the government like the other two agencies are known to do.
Granted, they probably aren't sending goons to intimidate anyone who says anything critical of President Jaresh-Inyo, but they do surveil Federation citizens to some extent. We know this because we see Sloan repeatedly visit Bashir.
If they'd send that strike team, they need to acquire the intelligence to know where to send it. I suspect the implication is that they covertly monitor citizens. Control seems to do that in the 22nd century to some extent.
There's also suggestions of agents spying on Federation politicians, although this could be a ruse of Sloan's mind to prevent Bashir accessing the cure.
No fictional character is worse than Hitler.
Hitler was real and caused real death and suffering.
You do know Star Trek is all made up?
Don't worry. In 10 years all that pesky optimism will be gone. It will even feel like a long forgotten dream when remembering you use to have it.
Nah. Being generally optimistic is a core part of my character. The day I stop being optimistic is the day I stop breathing.
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I envy you.
Seriously.
Seriously.
I think without a general sense of optimism, there’s simply no real reason to exist. Life isn’t remotely perfect, but there are things that make it worthwhile. Optimism is at the top of that list. Optimism for our spouses, our kids, our situations. Without it, life would just be a trudge of obligations with no joy.
Yep.
Nope.
The incredible ability of the human mind is the ability to continue on despite obstacles. Those who find purpose in the journey, hope for tomorrow, optimism in the future and patience in pain demonstrate greater resiliency over their lifetime.
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