What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

Agree. And it's odd. I mean, I'm not going to lie or fake it...I'm actually very proud of who I am...and I'm the whitest, straightest, manly-manest, etc etc etc. I know, and I'm not going to feel bad about that or make any excuses. Hell, I don't even have a female offspring (2 boys)...but I don't even THINK about this shit as "threatening" or whatever. Maybe it's because at a young age, I thought Ellen Ripley really kicked ass and so right there, it was just hard-wired. But, man....it is weird to me.

Same here. I'm as white as the day is long and pretty much embody WASP. I make no apologies for it, and I also love learning about other people so women in action roles is just as fine as men, or aliens, or whatever. Even talking rabbits are fine as protagonists.

 

[Mudd]

I do hope people dont come to a controversial opinion thread and then get annoyed when they see a controversial opinion in a controversial opinion thread

Just because a remark is trite and employs specious logic doesn't make it controversial. Trivially annoying people is not the same as creating controversy.

 

[Vger23]

Same here. I'm as white as the day is long and pretty much embody WASP. I make no apologies for it, and I also love learning about other people so women in action roles is just as fine as men, or aliens, or whatever. Even talking rabbits are fine as protagonists.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

I draw the line at rabbits on Trek!

 

[Vger23]

I draw the line at rabbits on Trek!

 

[fireproof78]

It's OK to not like a show.

 

[1001001]

Seems you too have chosen to ignore the point the as well.
It would be stupid to have an all white crew......thats the point I am making.
The crew should be mostly chinese, indian, african in terms of percentage.
women too would obviously be half the crew on average. ...if the crew was based on global representation.


I was told before in another thread when I asked about the lack of a straight white male, that they were a minor percentage of the population, and if that is the argument for not having one, then fair enough, by that logic trans or non binary which make up even less numbers should not be represented either using the same logic. See the contradiction ?

But the show is not based on that logic, as that logic was flung out the window in making the show. Somehow North americans seem to dominate the crew. Yet as minute as trans and non binary people are in terms of numbers on the planet, they are represented in discovery, yet a straight white man isn't.

I am merely pointing this out, and if this is deemed controversial, then its in the right thread is it not ?
I do hope people dont come to a controversial opinion thread and then get annoyed when they see a controversial opinion in a controversial opinion thread

All I did, literally, is quote your own words back to you.

You’ve stated your “controversial opinion”. You should fully expect people to argue with it.

Or at the very least point out the glaring contradiction between what you’re saying, and what you say you’re saying.

 

[Maurice]

Stamets is gay not straight
the others are women.
There are not straight white males, and mentioning this is not a crime or nor does it make me anti whatever to suit some peoples agenda, because that is what some would love to imply.

etc. etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam.

The problem with opinions like the ones you've expressed is there's absolutely no pleasing you. You will find some way to complain about the ethnic/gender/sexuality makeup of the cast. I bet if the show was cast to actually reflect the demographics found in the world today you'd be grousing how there aren't any white men on the show.

 

[XCV330]

its not the name of michael that annoys me,

Its the point it was given so as to trigger people and appear more pc in a show that is ridiculously over the top

You have no proof of intentions. Michael would not be the first Brian Fuller character with a name usually associated with males. It's a thing he does. Maybe he mentions why in some interview but I have never read about it.

In any case, naming patterns change over time. They're probably aren't as many male Allison, Stacy and Beverly's as their used to be 100 years ago.

Finding reasons to dislike the things you dislike is probably never going to be a comfortable fit. I have no right to guess, but I got this funny little feeling that if all the characters had names based on their actor's first names, you wouldn't have been all that terribly happy about anyone whose name ended in equa, either.

 

[cooleddie74]

Still looking for the definition of "ridiculously over the top." Or...anything validating the argument being made.

 

[tesral]

People in pajamas pretending to be in space among alien cultures is pretty over the top. But that is why we are here.

 

[cooleddie74]

Trek once had a green hand grab the Enterprise from the surface of a planet and the senior officers met an alien who once posed as an ancient Greek god so he and others of his kind could feel beloved and worshipped. I think Trek jumped the "over the top" shark decades ago.

 

[dupersuper]

Are we sure that Micheal is in fact "female?"

Perhaps Micheal has a double X chromosome, and early on her life identified as a woman, while possessing a fully functional penis.

This would explain her parents naming her Micheal.

I knew a girl in school named MichAEl. It happens.

Even MacGyver, before it turned into anti-gun propaganda at the end.

Didn't Mac (whose anti-gun stance I'm fully behind) have a female friend named Michael? Or was Mike just her nickname?

People in pajamas pretending to be in space among alien cultures is pretty over the top. But that is why we are here.

Over the top....over the top is our business. It's what this ship's about. It's why we're aboard her.

 

[Worf factor9]

I'll settle for medium well.

Medium rare towards the rare side for me, topped with some garlic butter.

 

[Coops]

TOS did The Mirror Universe best, ENT was second best mostly because it was within TOS

 

[Oddish]

Didn't Mac (whose anti-gun stance I'm fully behind) have a female friend named Michael? Or was Mike just her nickname?

He had a female friend who went by "Mike". Don't know her full name. Since she perished in the only episode I saw her in, I guess it doesn't matter.

 

[F. King Daniel]

What if kids saw the modern Star Trek, and thought you could just love anyone you like, be accepted however you felt about your gender identity or EVEN THAT GIRLS CAN HAVE A BOYS NAME. It'll be the end of society.

 

[dupersuper]

He had a female friend who went by "Mike". Don't know her full name. Since she perished in the only episode I saw her in, I guess it doesn't matter.

I just checked: her full name was Michelle. She was played by Patricia McPherson of Knight Rider, Star Trek (Angel One) and Warehouse 13 fame. I don't recall her dying in the episode she's in though.

 

[Crazyewok]

Wow, you completely totally misunderstood or failed to read what I wrote.
My argument was, if this was suppose to reflect the demographics of the planets, then there would probably no white people, gay or straight , male or female.
Americans would NOT be dominating starfleet either., it would be mostly chinese, indian etc. of the earth personnel I would have absolutely no problem with that
I already stated this.....TWICE

But since its NOT following that reasoning, and its mostly an American crew, made by Americans for a mostly American audience, then by that logic you would think a straight white male would be more odds on of being among the regulars since straight white males outnumber non binary people in population numbers.
Or are facts now something you try to deny. ? or is it just an issue when you dont like them ?

You really do have a fixation on trans and binary characters.

 

[Mudd]

I don't know that this is really controversial - it's pretty obvious - but: Trek was created by Hollywood liberals who absolutely intended the messages of the show to be progressive as they understood such things. Trying to find support for conservative positions in it is a misreading of the intent of almost everyone who did creative work on it.