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Because we are bound by the rules of the 60s.

One of the things mentioned in The Making of Star Trek" is they decided that sans the pointed sideburns they would have "normal hair" for the comfort of the actors. "Futuristic hair" (What ever that is) was considered briefly. So that is what you get, men and women in normal hair for the 60s.

I have no nostalgia for 60s hair. I do like seeing the "Scant" uniform style once in a while. TNG showed it on both women and men in the background. A uniform option, which you should expect when you have a multi-species service.

In the Trek game I run there are a people called Aneilogs, digitigrade hoofed bipeds with not a shred of "modesty." Universally , male or female they wear the "Aneilog scant" the difference being the skirt is slit up the back for their tail. Equally seen depending on the crew are pants, and in the case of the Handicapped Ane a horn wrap.

So uniforms are uniform only in markings and colors.
 
I have no nostalgia for 60s hair. I do like seeing the "Scant" uniform style once in a while.

In the episode in which Pike takes command of the Discovery the Barzan crewmember who accompanies him wears a uniform variation with an (a bit less than knee length) black skirt, tights/leggings and boots.
I'd say that's (hopefully) the closest we get to those go-go dresses from TOS.
Sorry I just don't like the skant, no matter if its on men or women ;)
 
In the episode in which Pike takes command of the Discovery the Barzan crewmember who accompanies him wears a uniform variation with an (a bit less than knee length) black skirt, tights/leggings and boots.
I'd say that's (hopefully) the closest we get to those go-go dresses from TOS.
Sorry I just don't like the skant, no matter if its on men or women ;)
Yeah, give me pants every day of the week, and twice on Sunday in a uniformed service. Skirts maybe for dress uniforms, like the Monster Maroons.
 
One of the things mentioned in The Making of Star Trek" is they decided that sans the pointed sideburns they would have "normal hair" for the comfort of the actors. "Futuristic hair" (What ever that is) was considered briefly. So that is what you get, men and women in normal hair for the 60s.

I have no nostalgia for 60s hair. I do like seeing the "Scant" uniform style once in a while. TNG showed it on both women and men in the background. A uniform option, which you should expect when you have a multi-species service.

In the Trek game I run there are a people called Aneilogs, digitigrade hoofed bipeds with not a shred of "modesty." Universally , male or female they wear the "Aneilog scant" the difference being the skirt is slit up the back for their tail. Equally seen depending on the crew are pants, and in the case of the Handicapped Ane a horn wrap.

So uniforms are uniform only in markings and colors.
Sounds like a fun game.
 
Because we are bound by the rules of the 60s. No matter what, if it is in that era it must remain bound by those rules and limitations. I must sound like a broken record by now but that is seriously what I have seen since ST 09. Star Trek series are not canon unless they hold on to the 60s aesthetic and design language 1000% faithfully. *cue Journey song*

I’m one of the biggest TOS fans I know.

And even with that, I have no desire or expectation of seeing a new Trek series that adheres to design aesthetics from 55 years ago, no matter what era it is set in. It’s an absolutely insane expectation, and even more insane to have as a core basis for objecting to the series.
 
I’m one of the biggest TOS fans I know.

And even with that, I have no desire or expectation of seeing a new Trek series that adheres to design aesthetics from 55 years ago, no matter what era it is set in. It’s an absolutely insane expectation, and even more insane to have as a core basis for having an objection to the series.
Well, like most insane things it gets repeated...over...

...and over...

...and over...

...and over...

again.
 
Number One did not in the Cage, SNW takes place in that era. Between The Cage and TOS there must have been some sort of sexist change of command.
Just FYI, back in the 1960s, miniskirts weren't seen as sexist. They were seen as a symbol of women's liberation. And Grace Lee Whitney pushed to have the women in miniskirt uniforms instead of pants. From page 87 of Allan Asherman's 1988 The Star Trek Interview Book:

GW: I was in pants. I rebelled, because to me it should have been a a big belt with a short skirt, boots, and long legs. That's what I saw. And when I said that to Bill Theiss, he had the same image. Bill designed the shorts with the skirt flap over the top: the famous uniform. [...] When we put legs into the format I think that helped sell the show.

AA: What did you think of the costume you wore in the series?

GW: I thought it was sensational. It stopped traffic, and being an egocentric actress, the more attention I could get, the better.​
 
Well, then you're in luck, because DSC jumped 930 years into The Future at the end of the second season, where it's going to stay for the rest of its run.

Hopefully not. The future future is great and all, but Discovery belongs in the 23rd century. Moving it out was a capitulation to the haters, and I hope the goal of the series going forward will wind up restoring it to its proper time and place.

Strange New Worlds is going to be an awesome show, and a fine continuation of the real Disco Era, but it's a poor replacement for the prequel stories we should have been getting with Michael and Georgiou and Saru in the late 2250s.
 
Hopefully not. The future future is great and all, but Discovery belongs in the 23rd century. Moving it out was a capitulation to the haters, and I hope the goal of the series going forward will wind up restoring it to its proper time and place.
I think it's more likely that that was done just so that DSC and SNW didn't have to worry about stepping on each other's storylines, similar to why VOY was set in the Delta Quadrant when DS9 was on the air.
 
I’m one of the biggest TOS fans I know.

And even with that, I have no desire or expectation of seeing a new Trek series that adheres to design aesthetics from 55 years ago, no matter what era it is set in. It’s an absolutely insane expectation, and even more insane to have as a core basis for objecting to the series.

Yeah, as I said in the other thread, I love TNG, but even if this was a Stargazer series I wouldn't want it to look like a show from the 80s, I would want it to look like a modern show.
 
Well, then you're in luck, because DSC jumped 930 years into The Future at the end of the second season, where it's going to stay for the rest of its run.

So the key problem you have with Discovery no longer applies to what it's doing now. Amputate the first two seasons, just look at from the third season on, and you're good to go. To put it a simpler way: treat it like it's TNG.
*whispers*

Nobody tell him about Strange New Worlds
 
I think it's more likely that that was done just so that DSC and SNW didn't have to worry about stepping on each other's storylines, similar to why VOY was set in the Delta Quadrant when DS9 was on the air.

Eh, Starfleet's a big place. One classified ship doing one season-long mystery/adventure probably wouldn't be bothered by another ship going on 10 or 13 episodic adventures hundreds of light-years away. DS9 and TNG worked together fine for two years with some mild crossovers between them (Emissary, Birthright, Firstborn).
 
It didn't make TOS lesser, it is just disappointing, because I really liked the low tech look of TOS, and I don't like how they changed the Enterprise in DSC.
Low Tech? Nothing about TOS was supposed to be low tech. It was supposed to be a high tech advanced future, abet filtered through 60s film/TV production. All Trek shows/films present a future filtered through the time they were made. Both in stories and production. DISCO should not be a 2020 show filtered through 1960s.
 
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