Well the finale harks back to the Measure of Man. Picard sees the synths as a unique life form and has faith in them, even if they themselves lose it and nearly become the monsters everyone thinks they are.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Bleh. We had a good thing going for a while there.
I like Picard Picard but I can't stand Movie Picard.
On a more serious note, I think there are really four Picards:
1. Picard from "Encounter at Farpoint" to "The Best of Both Worlds"
2. Picard from "The Best of Both Worlds" to Generations
3. Picard from First Contact to Nemesis
4. Picard from Picard
Picard #3 is just some Rambo Wannabe, IMO, who took all the wrong things from his meeting with Kirk. Picard makes a great Picard, but a terrible Kirk.
Bearing in mind that one facet of trauma is whether or not a person believes they have the resources to manage it. If part of Picard's recovery from the Borg was his family, and then members of his family die horribly, then that's one support removed. Add in the fact that in FC the Enterprise is not ordered to fight the Borg because Starfleet has "no faith" in "it's captain." Picard's certainty in his supports is slowly being shaken.
Controversial Opinion: The more insistent people are that certain things are going to happen, the less I believe they will. Unless you have access to the writer's rooms or have actually been on set, you can only ever be so certain.
I feel that way too. Same with for me when people tell me "You have to watch ____! It's the best." It's likely to put me off of it.
My latest controversial Trek opinion?
Head on over to the DSC forum and you'll see.
Head on over to the DSC forum and you'll see.
I think Lower Decks is a Berman Era series produced in the Kurtzman Era. At its heart Lower Decks is the unofficial/honorary fourth '90s-style Star Trek series set in the 24th Century following TNG, DS9, and VOY.
Some will perceive it as my saying that as a negative, since I prefer the TOS and Kurtzman Eras, but it's not intended to be that way. I just think Lower Decks is more in the spirit of TNG/DS9/VOY than it is DSC/PIC.
Some will perceive it as my saying that as a negative, since I prefer the TOS and Kurtzman Eras, but it's not intended to be that way. I just think Lower Decks is more in the spirit of TNG/DS9/VOY than it is DSC/PIC.
I think Lower Decks, while wearing a TNG coat of paint is far more in the spirit of TOS. Mariner especially seems more representative of that era.
Probably not a coincidence, since Mike McMahan is a huge TNG fan.
Mariner may fit into born in the wrong century way Tropes way more at home in that era of Cowboys then in the refined and civilized 24th century
Bleh. We had a good thing going for a while there.
I like Picard Picard but I can't stand Movie Picard.
On a more serious note, I think there are really four Picards:
1. Picard from "Encounter at Farpoint" to "The Best of Both Worlds"
2. Picard from "The Best of Both Worlds" to Generations
3. Picard from First Contact to Nemesis
4. Picard from Picard
Picard #3 is just some Rambo Wannabe, IMO, who took all the wrong things from his meeting with Kirk. Picard makes a great Picard, but a terrible Kirk.
Eh I'd argue Season 1 Picard is his whole own beast/Picard. Season 2-Best of Both World Picard isn't quite as contemptuous of everybody and everything around him as the guy in Season 1 was
I'll be honest, now I completely and totally understand why Season 1 Picard thinks 21st Century Humanity is so primitive.Eh I'd argue Season 1 Picard is his whole own beast/Picard. Season 2-Best of Both World Picard isn't quite as contemptuous of everybody and everything around him as the guy in Season 1 was
Because we are.
The humans of Star Trek are far more socially progressive with each other compared to humans in 2020. I doubt forced marriages, FGM, dictatorial nation states, religious extremism, kleptocracies, rampant free market capitalism, poverty, high crime rates, mass unemployment, large gaps between rich and the not so rich, sex, gender, race, class discrimination and people voting for lying , semi fascist, politicians are a part of Earth society.
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The Admiral did not represent the cultural views of the nation state of Earth, if she did she would have gotten away with her witchhunt.
No his career was destroyed because he lied on his application about his background.
Although not canon, the novels corrected that nonsense, he went on to be CMO of a starship
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Yeah, all Tarses did was lie on his application. Satie's witch hunt did not prove effective and even the head of Starfleet Security walked out.
I mean it's an interesting question... How would people here react if they were suddenly confronted with a trio of people from the late 1400s? Say feudal people from Europe?
Now the Middle Ages/Renaissance were in many ways less horrible than many people think today, but still you'd might be confronted with some views and mannerisms that you find downright repulsive and they'd likely be lost like children in this modern world. Horrible, horrible children. Chances are we'd be annoyed/disgusted with a lot of the things they do.
Of course Season 1 Picard didn't just show contempt to those three 80s stereotypes in The Neutral Zone. He frequently seemed like he could hardly stand to breath the same air as his fellow "evolved humans".
That's what I mean when I say Season 1 Picard was his own beast.
Now the Middle Ages/Renaissance were in many ways less horrible than many people think today, but still you'd might be confronted with some views and mannerisms that you find downright repulsive and they'd likely be lost like children in this modern world. Horrible, horrible children. Chances are we'd be annoyed/disgusted with a lot of the things they do.
Of course Season 1 Picard didn't just show contempt to those three 80s stereotypes in The Neutral Zone. He frequently seemed like he could hardly stand to breath the same air as his fellow "evolved humans".
That's what I mean when I say Season 1 Picard was his own beast.
Starfleet command might have no faith in Picard in FC. But in the heat of battle when Picard announced that he was taking command of the fleet, his fellow captains immediately accepted his leadership. That says a lot about Picard.
Compare that to Kirk, who showed respect to a reproduction of President Lincoln and seemed to enjoy showing a 1960's fighter pilot around his ship.
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