What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[cooleddie74]

TMP is the best Trek film.

 

[at Quark's]

Or Bashir's parents were over stating the degree of Julian's impairment, and his actual intelligence was what we saw with "Scruffy Bashir."

Julian had generally average intelligence, and that wasn't good enough for his parents.

That doesn't quite mesh with Bashir's own recollection of the events. In his words:

I was six. Small for my age, a bit awkward physically, not very bright. In the first grade, while the other children were learning how to read and write and use the computer, I was still trying to tell a dog from a cat, a tree from a house. I didn't really understand what was happening. I knew that I wasn't doing as well as my classmates. There were so many concepts that they took for granted that I couldn't begin to master and I didn't know why. All I knew was that I was a great disappointment to my parents. I don't remember when they made the decision, but just before my seventh birthday we left Earth for Adigeon Prime. At first, I remember being really excited at seeing all the aliens in the hospital. Then they gave me a room and began the treatments, and my entire world began to change.

Of course it's possible that he just internalised the story his parents told him to a very high degree, but these might also be genuine memories.

 

[1001001]

TMP is the best Trek film.

OR...

TMP is the best insomnia treatment ever invented.

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Glares in V'Ger*]

 

[1001001]

My oath of hatred is on record, Eddie.

 

[BillJ]

My oath of hatred is on record, Eddie.

Why do you try to hurt me?

 

[BillJ]

Of course it's possible that he just internalised the story his parents told him to a very high degree, but these might also be genuine memories.

Or he was abused and that was the fallout from that abuse.

 

[Henoch]

I thought STVI: The Undiscovered Country was a good apology for STV: The Final Frontier.

 

[1001001]

I would watch STV on a constant 24-hour loop for weeks on end, rather than sit through the torture of TMP one more time.

Why do you try to hurt me?

I'm not trying to hurt you.

That's just an added benefit.

 

[fireproof78]

Good point. They're both pretty meh.

Speaking of Scruffy Bashir though, it's a safe bet there was no genetic enhancement services for enslaved Terrans. So why didn't Mr. Scruffy have the intelligence of a brick, like Jules Bashir did?

Intelligence could be relative to the environment. The deficits may have been apparent in the Federation.

 

[Orphalesion]

I side with Dr.Marr when it comes to killing the Crystalline Entity instead of "communicating" with it.
Damn thing was not only killing thousands, but erasing whole eco systems. That just goes a bit to far.

 

[Oddish]

It could be that Jules' condition wasn't natural. Maybe something happened to him as a baby that his parents never knew about/never admitted to anyone.

But then, why address the issue with genetic engineering?

Or Bashir's parents were over stating the degree of Julian's impairment, and his actual intelligence was what we saw with "Scruffy Bashir."

Julian had generally average intelligence, and that wasn't good enough for his parents.

That certainly casts his parents in a different light, doesn't it? Though I will admit that it's possible.

 

[yotsuya]

Star Trek V is the film that is most like the series. Discovery is in an alternate universe and PIcard is good Star Trek.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

But then, why address the issue with genetic engineering?



That certainly casts his parents in a different light, doesn't it? Though I will admit that it's possible.

Easy fix, I guess.

Honestly I never thought his parents came off as particularly logical or admirable people anyway, so I could probably believe almost anything about them.

 

[Nyotarules]

Easy fix, I guess.

Honestly I never thought his parents came off as particularly logical or admirable people anyway, so I could probably believe almost anything about them.

What was so bad about them, if we had genetic enhancements in our time many parents would use it

 

[Isaac Lawrence]

I'm not sure if this is controversial, but for the life of me I never understood the fascination with the Borg.

And that's what killed a lot of Picard for me, it was like, "Oh god, not this Borg sh*t again."

Oh, and saying "Resistance is futile" was never cool. Ever.

And more of an observation...

EDIT: Never mind, and on with the post...

And naturally Discovery season 1 Klingons are the coolest version followed closely by The Original Series, and that's the list. Worf and all the 90's Klingons I lump in with the Borg, in that, "I don't get it... "

 

[Orphalesion]

Star Trek V is the film that is most like the series.

Well it can be said that it is...in the sense that they kept repeating the "we find something that claims to be (a) God, but it's really just a sufficiently advanced alien/computer" story-line again and again and again (...and again....and again...)in the shows.

 

[fireproof78]

And naturally Discovery season 1 Klingons are the coolest version followed closely by The Original Series, and that's the list. Worf and all the 90's Klingons I lump in with the Borg, in that, "I don't get it... "

Same here.

 

[Mage]

And naturally Discovery season 1 Klingons are the coolest version followed closely by The Original Series, and that's the list. Worf and all the 90's Klingons I lump in with the Borg, in that, "I don't get it... "

Same here.

For me, it came across that Worf learned all what he knew about Klingons from history books, not interacting with modern Klingons. He upheld the truest, most theoretical believes of Klingon honor and the teachings of Kahless. Through everything that happened after Praxis, the Klingons we saw during TNG/DS9 lost a lot of what made Klingons Klingons. The need to interact more with allies and being dependent on others for survival changed their culture and society. Worf was one end of the spectrum, the society during the latter 24th century the other.
Martok, who already was closer to what Klingons once were, saw something in Worf that reignited that old Klingon in him. I always felt that Martok was the perfect Klingon in the late 24th century. Aware of the neccisary evil of politics and learning how to work with allies but still stay true to the Klingon heart. Worf, while interacting with both modern Klingons and being more open to other interpretations of the Old Ways and the teachings of Kahless became a much less rigid man than he used to be and more comfortable being the best Klingon he could be for himself, not what he thought he should be.

And yes, Discovery's Klingons are much more a real alien culture than the TNG/DS9 Klingons ever were.

 

[Oddish]

We already do, in the crudest sense. I remember way back when amniocentesis was developed, some people called it a "search and destroy mission". It alerted parents of genetic anomalies, and they frequently chose termination under those circumstances.