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Well, of that list, I liked...

DUCKTALES
DOCTOR WHO
MAX HEADROOM
TMNT
AMAZING STORIES
THE TWILIGHT ZONE (not as good as the first series, but definitely much better than the later two shows.)
TRANSFORMERS

(And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GOOD MORNING, MISS BLISS become SAVED BY THE BELL?)
 
Yup.

Zack Morris can control time and break the fourth wall, just like Deadpool.

Depending on how literal you want to be, it's either a story telling device, or Zack is an alien with super powers, or the show is on a holodeck and he has all the cheat codes.

Lord Garth said:
Let's run through @Guy Gardener list one-by-one.

Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future. :shrug:
Beauty and the Beast. :shrug:
Ducktales. :alienblush:
Doctor Who. :whistle:
Max Headroom. :techman:
The Highwayman :shrug:
Defenders of the Earth. :shrug:
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. :alienblush:
Amazing Stories. :shrug:
Twighlight Zone. :shrug:
Transformers. :borg:
Out of This World. :shrug:
Dinosaucers. :alienblush:
Alf-Tales :whistle:
Good Morning Miss Bliss. (The Hero can freeze time, manipulate reality and see the Future. Just because all he uses the powers of a god for is to make a teenage girl fall in love with him, it's no less science fiction than Star Trek.) :shrug:

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What I say stands. And you left out Small Wonder. ;)

PS: So, there's no confusion, I'm shrugging at the 1980s version of The Twilight Zone. The one time I tried watching that version, I wasn't able to sit all the way through it.

Most cartoons during this time existed to sell toys. Transformers, like G.I. Joe had the honor of also being Cold War Era Propaganda to brainwash little boys.
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For your education....

Captain Power... By J. Michael Stravinski. Awful, but between plotting adult themes and new technology, it was all a leap forward. You could by a gun that looked like their jump ship, and shoot the screen, your ordinary TV, that would shoot back and your ship gun would explode, ejecting a spring loaded action figure 5 feet into the air.

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Beauty and Beast staring Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton. Fantasy chick flick, but weekly TV staring the girl from Terminator and an actual fucking cat. The make up was movie level good and confusing to a child.

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Beauty and Beast staring Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton.

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Yes, I know. My uncle used to watch it... and I went into another room whenever he put it on. ;)

Eight-year-old Lord Garth didn't give a shit if it was Ron Pearlman, trust me.
 
Guy Gardener said:
Yup.

Zack Morris can control time and break the fourth wall, just like Deadpool.

Depending on how literal you want to be, it's either a story telling device, or Zack is an alien with super powers, or the show is on a holodeck and he has all the cheat codes.



For your education....

Captain Power... By J. Michael Stravinski. Awful, but between plotting adult themes and new technology, it was all a leap forward. You could by a gun that looked like their jump ship, and shoot the screen, your ordinary TV, that would shoot back and your ship gun would explode, ejecting a springliaded action figure 5 feet into the air.

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Beauty and Beast staring Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton. Fantasy chick flick, but weekly TV staring the girl from Terminator and an actual fucking cat. The make up was movie level good and confusing to a child.

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That leader of the robot people in CAPTAIN POWER... looks very much like the Borg on TNG. Looks like it came out at the same time as TNG season 2. Coincidence?
 
Guy Gardener said:
Beauty and Beast staring Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton. Fantasy chick flick, but weekly TV staring the girl from Terminator and an actual fucking cat. The make up was movie level good and confusing to a child.
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Beauty and the Beast was way more popular at the time than is remembered now. Amusingly, the first TNG convention I went to was a co-convention with Beauty and the Beast.
 
drt said:
Beauty and the Beast was way more popular at the time than is remembered now.
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Yeah, it was a trendy show for a while there. But it came to a swift end when Linda Hamilton left the series and they killed off her character. They tried to introduce a new female lead, but since the heart of the show was the fairy tale-style romance between Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton's characters, that was an uphill battle.
 
Tallguy said:
V had an astonishing set up but no idea how to continue with pew-pew bang-bang.
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V had no idea how to continue withOUT pew-pew bang-bang.
Citiprime said:
V turned into a mess once the original showrunner (Kenneth Johnson) left after the first miniseries. Johnson, who was also behind the Alien Nation TV series (which plays with the idea of aliens as an allegory for an immigrant underclass), originally intended V to be a straight adaptation of the Sinclair Lewis novel "It Can't Happen Here," but was urged by NBC executives to change it. So they made the fascists into alien lizards to capitalize on Star Wars as well as making the political message not so explicit.

So when the second miniseries comes around, that's why the political allegory gets to be less and less evident and it begins the slide towards all sorts of bad science-fiction tropes with the "star child" and more pew-pew action.
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Whoever was brought in to write the series had no idea what had made the first mini successful, and no idea why the second mini was less so, and the showrunner seemingly couldn't tell the difference. After meandering around for half the season figuring out ways to reuse cheesy chases and coming up with "let's humanize the bad guys" srorylines that made no sense, they dropped half the cast and went full "the bad guys are the worst kind of bad guys" only to have it come down around them like a house of cards. The last gasp with the star child "all grown up and going to see the emperor" storyline was a deathrattle.
 
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TV SciFi shows were so rare when I was a kid in the 70s/80s that I watched almost every episode of every single one of them (except Starlost), yet even I lost interest in the V regular series after only a couple of episodes.
 
Guy Gardener said:
Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future.
Beauty and the Beast.
Ducktales.
Doctor Who.
Max Headroom.
The Highwayman
Defenders of the Earth.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Amazing Stories.
Twighlight Zone.
Transformers.
Out of This World.
Dinosaucers.
Alf-Tales
Good Morning Miss Bliss. (The Hero can freeze time, manipulate reality and see the Future. Just because all he uses the powers of a god for is to make a teenage girl fall in love with him, it's no less science fiction than Star Trek.)
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Do any of you remember Bionic Six?
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Do any of you remember Bionic Six?
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I'd see it in the video store, and walk past it, because it had never aired on TV.

Back then I was all about gi Joe and tansformers tapes.
 
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Do any of you remember Bionic Six?
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I loved Bionic Six! I'd get up every morning at 6:00 just to watch it.
 
Citiprime said:
V turned into a mess once the original showrunner (Kenneth Johnson) left after the first miniseries. Johnson, who was also behind the Alien Nation TV series (which plays with the idea of aliens as an allegory for an immigrant underclass), originally intended V to be a straight adaptation of the Sinclair Lewis novel "It Can't Happen Here," but was urged by NBC executives to change it. So they made the fascists into alien lizards to capitalize on Star Wars as well as making the political message not so explicit.
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Johnson was a unique talent, also responsible for his most famous creation, the best and most mature Hulk adaptation to date.
 
I've always wanted to check out The highwayman, but even through online methods, I have had no luck finding the files or any way of watching this.
 
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