Wesley's season one uniform?

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  1. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    In Season One Picard makes Wes an acting Ensign and he begins to wear a grey and black shirt with red, gold and blue stripes (Starfleet division colors). In "Coming of Age" Picard tells Wes to change into his dress uniform for dinner with Admiral Quinn. So, was that outfit a provisional uniform, a precursor to the gray one Wes would wear in Season Two?
     
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  2. NCC-73515

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    Too bad we never saw the provisional dress uniform XD
    He also has a silver commbadge instead of a gold one
     
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  3. Orphalesion

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    According to Memory Alpha, yes. Both are variations of a "provisional uniform" worn by acting ensigns. Personally I think they should have kept the three devision stripes in the updated design, without them the second uniform looked too much like civilian clothing.
    Of course it might have helped if we had seen more people in it than just Wesley...
     
  4. Mister Spock

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    I actually really like the striped jumper. It's very snazzy.
     
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  5. Qonundrum

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    The outfit looked like something the Providers would have given the Thralls-in-training in "The Gamesters of Triskeleon", which would have saved on costuming costs... then again, plastic fang teeth and an imitation bear loincloth and a couple rolls of tinfoil was cutting edge enough already...

    What a dress uniform might have looked like - that's just easier to imagine... :devil:
     
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    Caeruleus Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Why doesn't he wear regular Starfleet uniform with acting / provisional ensign pip? Like Maquis crew on Voyager. Thery were all acting / provisional officers.
     
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  7. jackoverfull

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    Always found wesley's "uniforms" quite embarassing…And always regarded to Wesley just putting them on because they were just normal clothes that resembled a uniform to someone with a very bad sense of fashion.
     
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  8. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    I always thought the striped jumper was civilian attire until I started this thread. :lol:
     
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    I didn't think it was civvies, becaused he'd clearly switched to wearing it regularly, once he was provisionally commissioined, but I honestly figured it was a uniform specific to him, & it never even occurred to me to make the connection that the stripes were the divisions, because it looked so childish & dumb imho

    Now I want to go back & calculate whether he was equally assigned to all 3 divisions, to merit wearing all 3 colors. I know he's doing command branch while serving at helm, & I suppose he's serving operations branch when we see him carrying out duties with Geordi in Engineering, but have we seen him doing equivalent time in sciences?

    Or am I just getting too far down the rabbit hole with this? lol :rommie:
    Well, Wes predates Voyager, so clearly the more probable scenario is that Voyager's crew decided it would look pretty stupid if half the crew were wearing rainbow jumpers :guffaw:
     
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  10. jackoverfull

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    Wesley’s first post was relieving Data at ops, and Data is operations. I don’t think we ever see him in a strictly science role, but he did plenty of science stuff and early TNG mostly avoided science officers anyway.
     
  11. F. King Daniel

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    At no point did I think Wesley was wearing any kind of uniform in S1 or 2. I thought it was civvies he chose because they looked vaguely uniform-ish, like the kid in "Hero Worship" or Picard throughout ST: Picard.
     
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    I didn't think that it was a uniform either until I read it on memory Alpha
    Especially in Season 2/3, it looks like a male version of the "futuristic business causal" wear Troi is dressed in.
     
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    Picard didn't strike me as someone who would let anyone dressed in civilian garb serve on the bridge.
     
  14. Orphalesion

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    I'm only asking this because it's very difficult to judge a person's tone over the internet but....

    You're joking right? Because this was the show where the counselor sitting next to Picard ran around in turquoise dress and high heels..
     
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  15. Ríu ríu chíu

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    ^ Can't believe I forgot about Troi :alienblush:

    Still, though, she's not actively operating a console, like Wes was. Troi just sits around and says obvious things. So maybe Picard made an exception in her case. :lol:
     
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  16. Orphalesion

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    Oh Troi had that little console next to her seat which she (I think) only ever used in the pilot.

    I like to believe she played Tetris on it, whenever she was on the bridge and there were no aliens on the view screen she could sense things from.
     
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    Fixed that for you. ;)

    Anyone remembers Jellico and his dislike to have Deanna in civies in the bridge?
     
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    until recently I never thought of his season one stripped thing as anything official or a uniform, but it kind of makes sense. 3 division colors because he hasn't officially joined and chosen a career track yet.
    I did always see his season 2 one as a uniform, even if it was an Enterprise D only thing and not something starfleet on a whole had in their list of uniforms
     
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  19. Tim Thomason

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    Acting Ensign isn't just something Picard made up. It has duties and privileges and so on. So, with this rank, comes a uniform. I figured the uniforms were designed for Acting Ensigns (and other Acting officers?) to tell them apart from commissioned officers on official duty at a glance.
     
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    I think Wil called them "The Ugliest Sweaters in The Universe."
     
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